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Like, ohmygod! That is, like, so totally crazy!

Posted by DanFan | March 28, 2008 12:13 PM

Nooo! I still remember that "perfect size six" quote.

Looking back, it's kind of unnecessary to mention their size at all.

Posted by Robin Sparkles | March 28, 2008 12:15 PM

To be fair, Paul, in the past 10 years companies have gradually changed sizing so that what was a size 6 10 years ago is now a size 2. So, actually the Wakefields stayed the same height and weight, but Gap just changed their sizing.

Posted by arduous | March 28, 2008 12:18 PM

@3 - Are you telling me that I'm not really a size 4? Dammit, now I'll have to go purge myself into a size 2. Damn you, Gap, Damn you to hell!!

Posted by DanFan | March 28, 2008 12:26 PM

@3 That is so true! Sizes have really changed.
I'm a size six and twenty years ago a size six was only for super petite skinny girls!

Posted by mj | March 28, 2008 12:27 PM

And I came in here to complain about vanity siziing. Looks like just about everyone already beat me to that punch.

Did you know that there are more than 550 books already in existance in the Sweet Valley ouevre? And something like 40 hour long television episodes?

Sweet Valley aint nuttin' to fuck wit.

Posted by Graham | March 28, 2008 12:36 PM

You ARE a super-petite skinny chick, mj.

Posted by Fnarf | March 28, 2008 12:40 PM

good, keep em skinny. How else will they find a man?

Posted by wisepunk | March 28, 2008 12:44 PM

I loved those books as a kid, and I'm pretty sure that they helped me hate the way I looked. Knowing I would never be "perfect" and all.

But, culture is a product of what people actually think just as much as the other way around, so. Can't blame the books.

Posted by violet_dagrinder | March 28, 2008 12:45 PM

Sorry, I meant to say that what was a size 6 is now a size 4. Not size 2. Though with some lines of clothes, a 6 IS now a 2.

Posted by arduous | March 28, 2008 12:47 PM

Pffft, I never read Sweet Valley when I was a kid. Babysitters Club is the shit.

Posted by julia | March 28, 2008 12:50 PM

@10 - Although women's sizes may have changed, I don't think juniors (teen girl sizes) have. Strangely, I can wear a 4 (or "6" if you will) in women's but I have to wear a 7/9 in juniors. I'd feel much better if it was a "5". :)

Posted by DanFan | March 28, 2008 1:02 PM

And this is why I love you Fnarf!

Posted by mj | March 28, 2008 1:05 PM

And this is why you hate me, mj:

These size-four twins -- twins! -- give me the shakes. Sweet Valleys, indeed!

Posted by Fnarf | March 28, 2008 1:49 PM

damn, paul. you've finally completely won me over. as a kids & YA bookseller, i've been cautiously hoping you don't hate on our section too much (as many book reviewers do). if you read bookshelves of doom you win my undying devotion to your posts & columns. keep kicking ass.
and @ 3 & 5, the blogger does mention (in her footnotes) that she realizes that sizes have changed but it bugs her anyway that they had to change it in the books.

Posted by anna | March 28, 2008 1:52 PM

"my girlfriend loves sweet valley and she thinks elizabeth wakefield is worthless"

Posted by Bellevue Ave | March 28, 2008 2:20 PM

@16: Elizabeth Wakefield is a spineless pushover goody-two-shoes piece of shit. Lila Fowler and Jessica Wakefield are where it's at.

Posted by Jessica | March 28, 2008 2:39 PM

@16: You are such a dork. I'll be using my "chocolate parfait/my arm hurts" voice for the rest of the weekend as punishment.

@17: Exactly! Oh, and Ms. Purest of the Pure Elizabeth is the one who always cheats on her boyfriends. Always. Dubs.

Posted by Mikki | March 28, 2008 2:44 PM

Remember in Sweet Valley University when Elizabeth gained 15 pounds and got fat?

Mmk must just be me.

Posted by SDizzle | March 28, 2008 2:57 PM

slam book fever!

Posted by pretentious | March 28, 2008 3:12 PM


I hope this doesn't burst your bubble, but they're not identical twins.

Posted by keshmeshi | March 28, 2008 3:21 PM


I TOTALLY remember that. And then she got stalked AGAIN because Elizabeth Wakefield is California's #1 most stalkable girl. Also also, in the "Sweet Valley Sagas" telling the history of the Wakefield women, THEY were all a "perfect size six" too.

Posted by hillside_hoyden | March 28, 2008 3:33 PM

Sweet Valley Sagas were horrible because of the obvious manufactured coincidences like the names starting with the same letters and shit. Totally Bogus.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | March 28, 2008 3:41 PM

@20: I just finished reading that, no joke. It really bothered me that Amy Sutton's eyes were gray in Slam Book Fever when they were sky-blue just 12 books earlier in Last Chance (and they were brown on the cover!)

Bellevue Ave, the names were sometimes even the same in the sagas, but with a different spelling. Also, you can tell the twins apart on any SVH book cover even better than I can.

Posted by Mikki | March 28, 2008 4:01 PM

Fnarf, I will never hate you! I may punch you or strangle you every once in a while but that is just fun.

Posted by mj | March 28, 2008 5:02 PM

Punching Fnarf is always fun, mj. Strangling him is a bit of work, tho.

Posted by Will in Seattle | March 28, 2008 5:33 PM

@26 Will, unless you hit like a girl and strangle as if you are giving a hug you wont be doing either thing like me.

Let it go Will... Punch a pillow and get over it.

Posted by mj | March 29, 2008 10:06 AM

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