Slog - Comments on Re: Russian-Speaking Immigrants: The New Vanguard of the Anti-Gay Religious Right? http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va The LA Times curtain-raises a hate-crimes trial that has flowed out of an attack last year on a gay man in Sacramento by evangelical, Russian-speaking immigrants. The victim of the attack, Satender Singh, died as a result of his injuries. I Slogged about the crime last October, but now seems a good time to revisit the issue with two links: One to my post from last October and one to a feature I wrote about a somewhat similar gay-bashing that occurred in Seattle in 2004.... Copyright 2008 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:50:47 -0800 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:48:18 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by max solomon we get somewhere on educating & sensitizing one group of ignorant idiots, then we import a bunch more.

the american melting pot is good for cuisine, but not gay rights.

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971385 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971385 Life Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:53:49 -0800 Comment by linus the american right should love immigrants
the busness community loves how dirt cheap they are (even pusedo vaugely leftist hipster magazine like vice has full page ads run by american appairal supporting uncontroled immigration)
The evangelicals should love how backwords and intolerant they can be

open the gates, keep america ugly! woot woot

]]> linus http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971463 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971463 Life Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:17:13 -0800 Comment by Greg Let's not blame the immigrants for a commodity we're so good at making right here at home.

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971555 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971555 Life Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:40:23 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways Russian Immigrants: Taking America one used car scam and fag-bashing at a time...

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971649 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971649 Life Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:03:22 -0800 Comment by max solomon greg, we import EVERYTHING. always have.

democracy? imported.
statue of liberty? imported.

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971770 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c971770 Life Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:42:52 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Um, I'm not really sure that two data points three years apart, and neither of them within the past six months, really defines a line here. Yes, there are homophobic groups in the Russian immigrant community, but is it really true that they are large, significant, or growing?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c972275 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c972275 Life Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:40:21 -0800 Comment by Dave Coffman Fnarf: I think they're significant because their homophobia has translated to physical violence on more than one occasion.

The idiot with the bullhorn on Pride Day? I can handle that. Fred Phelps with his "God Hates Fags" signs? I can even handle that. But people beating (ie Micah Painter) or killing (the guy down in Sacramento... that's another level.

It's not the crowd I worry about. It's the lone nut with the gun.

]]> Dave Coffman http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c972394 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c972394 Life Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:33:26 -0800 Comment by sactohomo Fnarf: the article in the LATimes fails to truly convey the vitriol with which Russian immigrants are spreading their destructive message, spread under the guise of Evengelical Christian 'love' and 'compassion'.

True - the two data points covered in the article do not point to a trend; however, I can say that, absolutely, their presence is significant and that, more troublesome, is the very active role of their clergy in pressing congregations to physically involve themselves in stopping, even merely percieved, homosexual contact in public (i.e., Mr, Singh's dancing with friends).

Most offensively to me, the clergy then attempts to frame the public debate as them having had their religious freedoms impinged upon - saying, "That's why we left Russia (Ukraine, etc.)".

Welcome to America; now live up to the personal responsibility that your desired freedoms require of you!

]]> sactohomo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c973216 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/re_russianspeaking_immigrants_the_new_va#c973216 Life Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:48:18 -0800