Comments on Re: It's a Generational Thing, Stupid

Have to agree, Obama is wise to basically say it's 20th Century thinking, and America has moved on.

Because, even if we haven't all done so, we wish we had.

That's what we need a President for - to point us the right way, not the wrong way (*cough* GWB *cough*) ...

its time for GENERATION SLACKER to take over! FUCK those early boomers!

Actually, the whole slacker thing is a misnomer, when you look at who has saved more and done more.

We just don't toot our horns as much ...

Guys, we all have to stop bickering about this petty irrelevant crap. This means nothing in the grand scheme. Think about the war, the economy, Supreme Court Justice appointments. While we Dems argue over this stuff and fling insults, McCain has taken the lead over both Obama and Clinton in recent polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

This is all directly attribiutable to the internal squabbles among the Dems. Enough with the petty crap already!! We are on the verge of self-destruction

Nice try. Much of Obama's rhetoric comes from the 60s: JFK, RFK, MLK, and Ceasar Chavez. His platform isn't post 60s. It's 60s-lite.

Its funny ... two weeks ago ... the haters were calling him Muslim and doubting his religion ... and now that his Pastor has made these comments about America, we find that Obama is Christian but now he's unAmerican, which in the eyes of many voters, even his own supporters, is *worse* than being Muslim. He cant win either way.

So my question is how come McCain wasnt dragged thru the coals in the same manor for Hagee and his spiritual guide? Simple. Obama sells papers, gets website hits and that is where the true story lies.

Agreed I do think he addressed well but need to push it home for his non-supporters and independents who could be swayed by this. Expect tomorrow race-based speech to be the most watched in the campaign! We wait in hope.

GObama 08!

Its funny ... two weeks ago ... the haters were calling him Muslim and doubting his religion ... and now that his Pastor has made these comments about America, we find that Obama is Christian but now he's unAmerican, which in the eyes of many voters, even his own supporters, is *worse* than being Muslim. He cant win either way.

So my question is how come McCain wasnt dragged thru the coals in the same manor for Hagee and his spiritual guide? Simple. Obama sells papers, gets website hits and that is where the true story lies.

Agreed I do think he addressed well but need to push it home for his non-supporters and independents who could be swayed by this. Expect tomorrow race-based speech to be the most watched in the campaign! We wait in hope.

GObama 08!

Its funny ... two weeks ago ... the haters were calling him Muslim and doubting his religion ... and now that his Pastor has made these comments about America, we find that Obama is Christian but now he's unAmerican, which in the eyes of many voters, even his own supporters, is *worse* than being Muslim. He cant win either way.

So my question is how come McCain wasnt dragged thru the coals in the same manor for Hagee and his spiritual guide? Simple. Obama sells papers, gets website hits and that is where the true story lies.

Agreed I do think he addressed well but need to push it home for his non-supporters and independents who could be swayed by this. Expect tomorrow race-based speech to be the most watched in the campaign! We wait in hope.

GObama 08!

What does turning the page on race and gender look like?

Reverend Wright is my age. He is African American and I'm white... Makes no nevermind... I still rabid opinions that are just as abusive and emphatic. The generation I grew up with, in Wisconsin, knew that Blacks could not stay overnight in my home town, own property there etc. My contact with African Americans, Hispanics etc. was through Life Magazine and Movietone film. I grew up with the rabid rantings of McCarthy and the hints that anything like civil rights was Communist in origin! There were a lot of people who I felt would have to die first before the evils of my country could be erased. I felt deeply the hypocracy of that period. Therefore I do not insist that Reverend Wright be held with feet to the fire for his remarks. Change the context and I would sing a similar tune. But Barack, like my son, is not of my generation. The bitterness I carry inside is not his. My son's vision and person is one such that my whole collection of random hates is ignored for something better.

My son does not deny the father. He does not accept my appraisals, nor does he apologize for them. I look at him as someone who can be what I wished I could in many ways be. I see Barack in the same light. I want a man who can lead us to a broader vision of ourselves. And who can lead me away from the poisons that fester within. It's time to walk into the future, forward, not looking back to the divisions and meanness that has so defined us who lived them.

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usually, i get lumped in as a boomer. i was born in late 63, so no fucking way.

"slacker" is the only distinction i knew of for 60's babies just prior to gen x, but recently i've heard "Generation Jones".

i have no idea what that means, but if i means i don't have to be in the same generation as president asshole, then i'm all for it.

Great. Unity, unity, rah rah rah, boomers you're stupid, unity, unity, rah rah rah, bommers you are stupid, rah rah rah.

Pastor Wright saying America is to blame for 9-11, that the USA government started the aids epidemic, that we should not have bombed Japan to win WW2, all that, is not trite 60s stuff. And OBama saying he didn't notice this line for 20 years is as Josh says, obvious bullshit.

This talk is about today, and Obama's saying let's turn the page isn't going to cut it.

This is losing him votes among swing voters in America who can tell what Josh says: that Obama is subtly telling mainsteream America to fuck off.
"Fuck off, mainstream America" isn't exactly the campaign Obama supporters said he would run, back when the argument was that this campaign could unite America and lead to a sweeping victory.

Now, "it's a generational thing, stupid," dissing the boomer generation, is yet another reason why Obama is not being the big uniter. It's not very smart to ask for votes in an election where most voters are over age 50 and also diss .... folks over age 50.

Perhaps this is also a generational thing, but when I check my own gut reaction I have absolutely zero surprise and zero outrage that a preacher in a black ministry should occasionally rail in fury at the white world. I also understand how an intelligent young black man could hear that, even empathically, and not believe it himself -- but feel the catharsis in it.

Look, I've read some way-out-there leftist diatribes in my time and I still have my own views. I still get to keep my own mind.

Hell, I even suspect John McCain doesn't believe the Catholic church is a "great whore" or believe that Katrina was a punishment for homosexuality. As the old quote goes, I am a human, therefore nothing human is alien to me.

is this unPC person some brilliant voice for reason or what? I like it, my birds and dog like it, what you're saying is very smart and people need to listen to youre wise and important words.

Look. It all sounds so ignorant I am ashamed of the human race. yes the human race not the white black yellow or whatever we try to pin outselves to (race) but the human race. What a shameful race of idiots. We come on earth we all eat we all drink we all go to the bathroom we all get sick and we will all die because we are all members of the human race and no color will exclude us from the above we all in it together guys so dont fool yourself you dont know who will be there to help you when the end comes. i hope it is a good human and not one who says i cant help you you are the wrong color. What goes around comes around. Judge not lest ye be judged.

can't we just turn the page on gay stuff too - marriage, equal rights and turn it on poverty, women's rights, turn it on war issues and all the stuff the stupid boomer generation confronted society with in the 60s - its all so, so yucky