Huh? Is there a description of how this miracle takes place anywhere? I couldn't find anything concrete about it in any of those links, besides a micro-drawing that didn't really look like what you describe.

okay, that's cool and all, and she's obviously talented and determined. but art? i'm not sure about that. i read the articles. i saw the pictures. you might as well call "pimp my ride" and "the swan" art. or anyone getting in shape art. she's bettering herself while learning a new hobby.

and i, too, could not find any pictures of the car.

here's a vid:

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:LqmvzRp-HUUJ:profile.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Duser.viewprofile%26friendid%3D58408841+%22Liz+Cohen%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us&lr=lang_en

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4fOOqoAgJDs&feature=related

this page is interesting.

http://mywikibiz.com/Liz_Cohen

i still think it's mixing three hobbies (each one maybe art) into one project. and it's cool, and it's amazing.

but i don't think it's art.

unless becoming lawyer is art. or going to school. or reality tv.

it's not even as interesting as a documentary. can you image hoop dreams without the insight into the lives, communities, friends and history of the guys?

Love her!

What does "not art" even mean? It's art if the artist says so. Trying to decide what's art and what's not is a pedant's game. Now, GOOD art and bad art, have away at it.

Fnarf: The first link (to the Believer piece) is an intro to the project. The car is pictured right there in the photo, and in three images on the Lawrimore Project link. Here's a Youtube link from several months ago that shows the unfinished car in motion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fOOqoAgJDs.

I guess I'm just not seeing it. I see a Trabant with a bunch of hydraulics, but I don't see any El Camino.

Go Team Trabi! Yay!

eh... it's an expression. you know what it means. saying "it's not art" is more than saying it is bad art. it defines why it is bad art. we have a bare minimum standard we expect art to meet.

there is nothing bad about what she is doing. much of it is good, and impressive. just like a reproduction of a picasso is good, it's a stretch to say it is part of my art collection.

a transformer is not art. restoring a car is an art. the lamborghini countach is a work of art. but it is not art.

otherwise everything is art. and the word becomes pointless.

glad you decided you're the arbiter of what's art and what's not, infrequent. a little research (try a search for "duchamp, marcel" and "urinal") might clue you in to the century of art history you're apparently missing. and frankly, knowing what you're talking about might be a good idea before issuing blanket dismissals.

what? i can't have an opinion on this? i don't recall saying i was the or even an art god. i just have an opinion that i'm more than willing to open dialog.

i think i made my opinion very clear. the word "art" has many different meanings and usages, and as i used it i felt it was clear. absolutely anything can be art. i used a common expression to indicate that i don't consider this quality art. (even that is tricky, as she is a quality artist, a quality model, and her work thus far is quality work.)

i also don't think the "win a harley" ad next to this box is art, but the creator of it might disagree. or even you, even-more-anonymous-than-i poster.

I'm just glad somebody is noticing MyWikiBiz.com. It's a great site for artists to get noticed by Google.

Here's another artist page, if you're not digging Liz Cohen's efforts:

http://www.mywikibiz.com/Directory:Schiepan

The site is open for anyone to author a page about themselves, their company, their church -- whatever.

Has anyone heard of performance art here? Cindy Sherman? Anyone? Have you ever been to a lowrider show, or even an auto show? Richard Prince?

Oh, and if you're having a debate about whether it's art or not, you can be damn sure it is. Duh.

The lady should put on some chaps, at least, before she starts welding.

yes -- anything is art once someone says it is art. maybe it was even art before then -- just no one noticed yet.

fine. whatever. everything is art. and has been for some time now.

can we get past that idea now? haven't we already embraced that idea long enough? can we get past the idea that despite the fact that we can call anything art, and judge anything on its artistic merit, if everything is art then the word "art" means nothing.

this is not the voice of some hick looking at a pollock saying, "that there ain't art... my niece could paint that!" this is the voice of someone who wants art to retain a certain meaning.

i don't want the reality tv show "survivor" to be considered art. you can evaluate it as art. you can learn from it. it might be considered beautiful by some. but, in my opinion, after evaluating it, i've decided it is not art (imho). i'm also fairly certain that in 100 years, neither survivor nor liz cohen's transforming car/body/life will be remembered as art like a pollock will be.

art is only using lowercase letters.

'This is not art...this is an unfunny joke.'

That was a 1959 newspaper headline about Jackson (Jack the Dripper) Pollock's paintings, undoubtedly written by a critic who wanted 'art to retain a certain meaning'.

Are we to reject all art that does not stand up to your hackneyed 'I'll bet we don't remember it in 100 years like we do Pollock' test?

If you want to make a list of ideas that we need to get past, you can start with yours, adding 'ideas' in the comment sections following Graves' Currently Hanging posts liberally...excluding the 'I like that, I'll buy' it comment and follow through.

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