Slog - Comments on Jesus Christ, War Criminal http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff The liberal blogs aren't going to let this rest: Barack Obama was forced to denounce and reject--or was it reject and denounce?--Louis Farrakhan after the bigoted leader of the nutty Nation of Islam endorsed him. Barack didn't seek Farrakhan's endorsement, never met with Farrakhan, etc. Days later John McCain welcomed the support of John Hagee, an evangelical pastor with all sorts of bigoted things to say about, well, everybody--but particularly Catholics. Anyway, the whole world is sifting through past nutty statements of John Hagee, and today John at Americablog posted this.gem... HAGEE: All hurricanes are acts of God, because God... Copyright 2008 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:25:27 -0800 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:32:48 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by bma The difference is that we as liberals don't call racist xenophobes our "base".

]]> bma http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953517 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953517 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:40:40 -0800 Comment by jeffg166 John Hagee divorce his first wife to marry his church secretary. To me this is no big deal but this is mister morality we're talking about. There's a web site Hall of Shame for the Self-proclaimed:

http://www.ondoctrine.com/00shame.htm

According to Hagee's beliefs he's guilty of adultery, initiated and completed an unbiblical divorce and remarriage.

Guess that means his kids are all bastard, according to his beliefs.

]]> jeffg166 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953538 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953538 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:53:27 -0800 Comment by umvue C'mon, Dan. That ol' God is always pulling that kinda killing of the supposed innocent shit. It's all in that book.

]]> umvue http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953547 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953547 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:58:00 -0800 Comment by IzzyTamco Amen!

]]> IzzyTamco http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953550 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953550 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:59:21 -0800 Comment by Andrew People who believe in make believe gods or whatever in their adulthood have a mental illness. They should all be commited.

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953557 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953557 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:04:21 -0800 Comment by mj " God may be all-knowing and all-powerful, but He is, it seems, a lousy shot, the Mr. Magoo of higher powers"


That made me laugh. The Mr. Magoo observation is right on.


You're just wrong on who the Mr. Magoo's are. The Mr. Magoo's are all the Hagee's
and Pat Robertson's who actually think they are the great authorities on everything and act like they are some kind of higher power themselves. They're blind idiots and anybody who would follow them are just as dumb and blind.

I so wish they would shut up.

I'm the one people should be listening to anyway, sheesh, I know way more than those buffoons. I just don't have millions of dollars so nobody cares : )

]]> mj http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953558 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953558 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:04:32 -0800 Comment by flamingbanjo The fixation with storms as the means for God's wrath makes me think these people are really hankering for a good old-fashioned thunder god. They say Jehovah, but secretly they mean Zeus or Thor.

Because heaven = the sky, naturally.

]]> flamingbanjo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953560 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953560 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:06:53 -0800 Comment by A in NC People like Hagee really depress me. Religion is never going to go away. We have to work on making it a less pernicious force in human societies ... but how? There are plenty of rational religious people out there, but the Hagees seem to outnumber them 10 to 1 in this country.

]]> A in NC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953567 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953567 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:12:21 -0800 Comment by SeMe as a recovering catholic, i am offended, but calling the catholic church, "the great whore" is too funny.


mccain doesnt really care about the cahtolic vote, its mostly based in big cities which he is going to lose, he is more worried about the evangelicals.

this hagee reminds me of northern ireland's ian paisley.

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953586 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953586 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:21:49 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV The Mr. Magoo of higher powers?!?

God's gonna smite your next-door neighbor for that!

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953594 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953594 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:25:33 -0800 Comment by COMTE "You've managed to kill everyone else but like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target! You got New Orleans, but you don't have me. You were going to kill me, God. You're gonna have to come down here. You're gonna have to come down here!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDD!"

(Slightly altered dialogue courtesy of Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan.)

]]> COMTE http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953605 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953605 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:33:45 -0800 Comment by mj @10 Cute.

]]> mj http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953606 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953606 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:34:31 -0800 Comment by Hernandez The man is even more deranged that Pat Robertson, if you believe that's possible.

Have you heard his theories on the end of the world? Fucking hilarious. Apparently, we fight half the countries in the world, then God swoops down and smites the Chinese and the Antichrist (who is the president of the EU).

Enjoy the endorsement, McCain! That should wipe out whatever remaining support you had among moderates.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953657 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953657 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:04:42 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi @9,

Isn't he going to need the Latino vote?


Apropos of what #7 said, the wingnuts' religion really seems to be a pagan religion. Not only do they apparently think God is preoccupied with the weather (ala a god of thunder), they also assign human fallibility to an allegedly omniscient and omnipotent being.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953664 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953664 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:07:54 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty There's no shortage of kooks in the world. Farrakhan is a kook, and Obama would do well to distance himself from him. Hagee is a kook, and McCain, likewise, should distance himself from him. P.S.: I liked the Mr. Magoo comment too.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953665 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953665 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:08:52 -0800 Comment by Greg What a bastard. But you should know right now, appeals to the crazy conclusions that follow logically from his wacko beliefs are not going to move him one inch. His mental illness will not let him see the evil of his god-concept.

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953689 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953689 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:20:42 -0800 Comment by SeMe @ 14

good point. he does, but my guess is that mccain feels he can do well with latinos because of his sponsoring of the kennedy-mccain bill.

i dont think mccain thinks he can win in california, new york, mass or jersey. the big catholic states.

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953764 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953764 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:54:17 -0800 Comment by julia In the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, God promises Lot he won't destroy Sodom if he can find 10 righteous men there. Apparently he didn't, because he ended up destroying it. But shouldn't there have been at least 10 righteous men in all of New Orleans to prevent God from destroying it?

]]> julia http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953775 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953775 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:59:01 -0800 Comment by COMTE What about all those trailer parks in Oklahoma, Mississippi, Louisiana, and so-forth that are constantly destroyed by tornadoes? Does Hagee believe those are also full of teh 'mo's and those who love them too?

If that's the case, then his god surely DOES work in mysterious ways, 'cause you know, punishing the innocent seems a pretty strange method for showing one's displeasure over the actions of supposed sinners:

GOD: "I HATE FAGS!"

*Sends tornado to smite innocent, elderly, church-going trailer park resident*

IECTPR: "Oh Lord, why dost thous smite me? I hate fags too!"

GOD: "Shaddup. I'm mysterious."

Homo: "Neener-neener! Missed me!"

*God smites another IECTPR*

God: "Oh blasphemous sinner, will you never learn to fear my wrath?"

]]> COMTE http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953942 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c953942 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:18:34 -0800 Comment by Jim Oh come on. More deranged than Pat Robertson? I don't think that's physically possible. Robertson believes every one of those old fashioned conspiracy theories. He is full on Illumanati material.

Let's just say he has it out for "European" bankers. Man, that code is almost impossible to break.

]]> Jim http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c954605 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c954605 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:29:57 -0800 Comment by Matt L. Thanks Dan- I often think that the creepy conservative "Christian" statements around the Hurricane and flood, contrasted against some of the local churches that were able to support people post-catastrophe who were otherwise destroyed is THE missing element in stories about the whole horror. (Well, after the fact that it was a man-made flood that had been thoroughly predicted and preventable, and not the hurricane, that was the disaster.)

]]> Matt L. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c955424 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/mccains_problematic_bff#c955424 Religion Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:32:48 -0800