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Wednesday, March 12, 2008

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posted by on March 12 at 14:26 PM

Rep. Mark Foley
State Rep. Bob Allen
Sen. David Vitter
Sen. Larry Craig
Mayor Gavin Newsom
State Rep. Richard Curtis
Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick
Gov. Eliot Spitzer

Am I leaving anybody out? Bill Clinton?

I guess I could add New Life Church Pastor Ted Haggard.

The question I have is this: Why don’t any female politicians ever go down (ha) in sex scandals? Don’t female politicians build up the same sense of invincibility that comes with power that leads to crazy risks, like, oh, wiring thousands of dollars to a prostitution ring?

Are they just smarter than their male counterparts about covering their tracks?

Has there ever been a big political sex scandal where the main character was a woman?

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1

And why is it that it's FEMALE school teachers get involved in sex scandals with their male students?

And white, male kids in suburban or rural schools who go on rampages?

Posted by michael strangeways | March 12, 2008 2:28 PM
2

More of a "sexy" scandal recently when female Mayor Carmen Kontur-Gronquist lost her job:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-carmen-kontur-gronquist,1,1334294.story

Posted by dannyboy | March 12, 2008 2:32 PM
3

McGreevey's wife has an interesting NYT op-ed today. Doesn't answer the question, really, but it's good.

Posted by Ziggity | March 12, 2008 2:34 PM
4

The Kitty Harris meltdown was pretty scandalous (and awesome).

Posted by kid icarus | March 12, 2008 2:35 PM
5

There was that Chenoweth woman from Idaho.

Posted by ahava | March 12, 2008 2:36 PM
6

At least Clinton wasn't a major hypocrite except for pretending to be religious.

Posted by McG | March 12, 2008 2:39 PM
7

@1,

Lots of male teachers still get caught fucking their students. It just doesn't make the news like it used to.

Posted by keshmeshi | March 12, 2008 2:42 PM
8

Chenoweth's affair didn't happen while she was in office, so I don't think that counts.

You've got to imagine that a few of the eighty or so women in Congress are getting some on the side. I guess they're just more discreet.

Posted by tsm | March 12, 2008 2:45 PM
9

Jim West?

Posted by gillsans | March 12, 2008 2:46 PM
10

@7 beat me to it. Happened in my high school. Twice (while I was there, anyways). Male teacher fucking female student is passe these days.

Posted by Julie | March 12, 2008 2:48 PM
11

Our society has created a bunch of rules about sex that don't mesh well with male sexuality. Of course, they don't mesh all that well with female sexuality either. Not that you can have both. We seem to have chosen neither.

Posted by Smade | March 12, 2008 2:52 PM
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Posted by I Got Nuthin' | March 12, 2008 2:54 PM
13

Heh, at my high school, "male teacher fucking male student" was all the rage.

I think all the hot-female-teacher-banging-students incidents get media attention largely to fulfill the fantasies of male viewers.

Posted by tsm | March 12, 2008 2:55 PM
14

Does Ann Richards count?

Posted by Ari Spool | March 12, 2008 3:04 PM
15

Powerful women - it would seem - don't go for hot, young dick like their male counterparts go for hot, young tail. It seems powerful women go for more powerful, more successful, richer men.

Posted by Bauhaus | March 12, 2008 3:19 PM
16

"Are they just smarter than their male counterparts about covering their tracks?"

Yes.

Posted by SDizzle | March 12, 2008 3:19 PM
17

Maybe sex isn't as much a part of power trips as with man.

Posted by Todd | March 12, 2008 3:26 PM
18

Maybe sex isn't as much a part of power trips as with men.

Posted by Todd | March 12, 2008 3:26 PM
19

come on "friendo", the answer is e-z, there is just simply less women in goverment positions of power. if there were just as much women as men, there would be at least 3 gigolo scandals a year.

Posted by SeMe | March 12, 2008 3:41 PM
20

does catherine the great count?

Posted by linus | March 12, 2008 3:43 PM
21

Could we count that Roberts wife who stole a bunch of money to give to male students?

Posted by eclexia | March 12, 2008 3:46 PM
22

@6

No, Clinton wasn't a hypocrite, just a bold faced liar. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

As for the post, if a woman politician was caught, I doubt her husband would stand by her side for the cameras.

Posted by hunh? | March 12, 2008 3:54 PM
23

because powerful women dont need sex so they dont get in sex scandals

either that or they marry male subs

Posted by frede | March 12, 2008 3:57 PM
24

I think #19 nailed it: there are simply less women in these positions than men.

But, I would also guess that being a woman politican means having to conduct everything under more scrutiny than your male counterparts, as there are probably more people out there willing to rip a female politician to shreds than a male.

Whether that means they become better at covering their tracks or if the drive to succeed under constant criticism simply outweighs the need to diddle around, I'm not sure.

Posted by Matty Worth | March 12, 2008 4:13 PM
25

Chiming in with no.s 19 and 24; there are less women in office. In 2000, only 20% of state officials were women, and only 10% of national officials were.
Add to that one more hard cold fact - women patronize prostitutes/sex workers less.
So, uh, W: 1, M: 1? (Or maybe W: 0, M: 2?)

Posted by Ursula | March 12, 2008 4:30 PM
26

you're all avoiding the obvious reason that men and women have different attitudes towards "getting some."

women are in construction trades now but rarely whistle or comment to anonymous passersby.

Posted by obvious | March 12, 2008 4:34 PM
27

Mostly it's the lesser number of women in office, combined with a bit of discretion and a lot of luck. Though I'm surprised that you haven't heard about the female Washington State representative who was notorious for screwing around.

A good-looking lobbyist friend had to constantly refer to his fiancee to keep her from jumping his bones. Rumor has it she was once confronted by the wife of a legislator she was banging. Apparently the wife screamed at her in the middle of the capitol building, "Keep away from my husband you fucking cunt!". Or some variation thereof...

Posted by Smartypants | March 12, 2008 4:53 PM
28

Well, let me tell y'all the story of Aimee McPherson
Aimee McPherson, that wonderful person,
She weight a hundred eighty and her hair was red
And preached a wicked sermon, so the papers said.

cho: Hi dee hi dee hi dee hi
Ho dee ho dee ho dee ho.

Aimee built herself a radio station
To broadcast her prraching to the nation.
She found a man named Armistead who knew enough
To run the radio while Aimee did her stuff.

Shc held a camp meeting out at Ocean Park
Preached from early morning 'til after dark.
Said the benediction, folded up her tent,
And nobody knew where Aimee went.
When Aimee McPherson got back from this journey,
Shc told her tale to the district attorney.
Said she'd been kidnapped on a lonely trail.
In spite of all the questions, she stuck to her tale.

Well, the Grand Jury started an investigation,
Uncovered a lot of spicy information.
Found out about a love nest down at Carmel-by-the-Sea,
Where the liquor was expensive and the loving was free.

They found a cottage with a breakfast nook,
A folding bed with a worn-out look.
The slats were busted and the springs were loose,
And the dents in the mattress fitted Aimee's caboose.

Well they took poor Aimee and they threw her in jail.
Last I heard she was out on bail.
They'll send her up for a stretch, I guess,
She worked herself up into an awful mess
Now Radio Ray is a going hound;
He's going yet and he ain't been found.
They got his description, but they got it too late.
Sin they got it, he's lost a lot of weight.

Now I'll end my story in the usual way,
About this lady preacher's holiday.
If you don't get the moral then you're the gal for me
Cause they got a lot of cottages down at Carmel-by-the-Sea.

From the liberated Woman's Songbook, Silverman.
Note: It happened in 1926. Lasted 36 days. Results inconclusive.
Armistead was really Kenneth Ormison, her radio engineer.
Hallelujah! RG

Posted by Blue | March 12, 2008 5:00 PM
29

You left out dan ryan..

Wasn't the czarina catherine in a sex scandal?

Posted by Andrew | March 12, 2008 5:30 PM
30

@29

ONE sex scandal? Try several.

Posted by Aya | March 12, 2008 7:56 PM
31

Because who in their right mind would want to bone Patty Murray??

Posted by catnextdoor | March 12, 2008 10:00 PM
32

If Senator Jenae Holmquist is reading this and wants to have a sex scandal, she knows where to find me.

Posted by Ryan | March 12, 2008 10:22 PM
33

#19: True dat.

Also: Many of these scandals you refer to are gay man scandals. I'm sure in the past, everyone just swept these under the rug, but as gay people become more accepted in society, it becomes less okay to be a closeted hypocrite. Ta-Da: scandal!

Also: #17.

I've heard of a female prosecutor having sex with her (allegedly) murderous client...

Posted by me | March 12, 2008 11:39 PM
34

@33

Prosecutors don't have clients.

Posted by supersmeller | March 12, 2008 11:58 PM
35


Here's a couple of examples from Canada...

You have to read between the lines on this one...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_Heatherington

I think that the concensus is that she ran off to have an affair then claimed to have been 'kidnapped and raped'.

Posted by Ken | March 13, 2008 7:39 AM
36


and another...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judi_Tyabji

(In this one it was two politicians caught having an affair with each other)

Posted by Ken | March 13, 2008 7:40 AM
37

In the mid-'60s - Christine Keeler pretty much brought the British government to its kneeds - along with Mandy Rice-Davies. All wonderfully shabby in the quaint way that the Brits are shabbily genteel when they are revealed to be less than good peers.

Posted by RHETT ORACLE | March 13, 2008 9:53 AM
38

'knees' for Christ sake - fulfilling 'kneeds' perhaps...

Posted by RHETT ORACLE | March 13, 2008 9:54 AM
39

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