Slog - Comments on It's March 4! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4 Another Tuesday, another cluster of Democratic nominating contests. But what do we call this one? Super Tuesday II: Judgment Day? Nightmare on Tuesday, the Return-watch Returns? Presidential Campaigns Die Hard, Part 13? Anyway, here we are, two months after the Iowa caucuses, with the race for the Democratic nomination still not settled—but perhaps about to be finally settled tonight. Or not. The real question is: Where will you be when it all happens? Of course you should be here with us on Slog, where we'll be blogging the results. But if you also want to inhabit a non-virtual space this... Copyright 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:35:00 -0800 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:39:03 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mr. Poe Woo! Leave the knife at home, yo.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955561 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955561 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:40:39 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Here's an idea: call it "March Fourth".

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955572 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955572 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:51:39 -0800 Comment by McG So the Obama campaign is splitting the Democratic Party. Shame on them.

]]> McG http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955573 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955573 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:52:37 -0800 Comment by hush hush Call it, 'Til Tuesday.

]]> hush hush http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955577 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955577 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:55:24 -0800 Comment by Andrew Super Tuesday Two: The Wrath of Hillary.

Can you just picture it? Hillary tells Obama, "And now I shall leave you as you left me...buried alive, BURIED ALIVE!!"

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955578 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955578 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:56:44 -0800 Comment by Big Sven I predit we won't know the TX delegate count until the national convention, if then. (Primaries and caucuses on the same day? WTF?)

We'll get a popular vote and then the losing candidate will claim they have more delegates.

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955583 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955583 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:00:47 -0800 Comment by Big Sven In addition to watching the results from the four states coming in, attendees will also get an opportunity to learn about the Legislative District caucuses that take place on April 5th where delegates for legislative districts will be elected.

Umm, no. Delegates for the STATE and NATIONAL Convention will be elected at the Legislative District caucuses.

Is this Obama supporters trying to game the system to get Washinngton State's (few) Clinton delegates?

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955589 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955589 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:07:28 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe "Is this Obama supporters trying to game the system to get Washinngton State's (few) Clinton delegates?"

OMG sacrilege!

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955594 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955594 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:10:42 -0800 Comment by annie @7: Uh, are you feeling OK, Sven? Delegates elected at the precinct level were "precinct delegates" because they represented their precincts; likewise, delegates elected at the legislative district might be called "legislative district delegates" because they represent their LDs. Clearly, the precinct delegates are not now going to precinct conventions; and neither are the legislative delegates going on to legislative district conventions.

]]> annie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955602 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955602 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:16:57 -0800 Comment by The CHZA I live in Central Ohio (east-side Columbus/Gahanna to be specific) and I can say that if only the major cities were voting, it would probably go to Obama no problem. Ohio State campus is a complete Obamafest (I'm not saying Obamarama dammit) but local news polls keep putting Clinton ahead by 5-8 points. If Obama wins it doesn't look like it will be by a very large margin.

]]> The CHZA http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955605 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955605 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:17:41 -0800 Comment by Elvis "I drink your milkshake. I drink it all up."
- Hillary

]]> Elvis http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955606 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955606 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:18:47 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe @UPDATE:

Bus is doing Moe again!? Great! So if you want it to take 5,000 years before you can get your next drink, go to Moe bar tonight!

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955613 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955613 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:23:58 -0800 Comment by mackro mackro I'll be happily avoiding all of this and read the, likely, unsurprising news tomorrow morning. ("Obama scores better but Hillary in MAJOR COMEBACK!")

And hence this will drag on until late April at the soonest...

...while in the end, the major things that will determine this election are a) Iraq, and b) the economy. Obama is more likely to pwn McCain, I think, but I think Hillary would still have the upper hand too.

The GE polls today giving McCain the edge mean absolutely fucking nothing.

There's still a loooooong eight months away. Anything can happen, good or bad, on either side, that we have no clue about.

]]> mackro mackro http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955615 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955615 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:25:17 -0800 Comment by Original Andrew Andrew @ 5,


I just snorted hot tea through my nose! Well played, sir.

]]> Original Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955623 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955623 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:33:39 -0800 Comment by Katelyn Moe Bar's email about the party tonight read, "March Forth on March Fourth!"

I WAS SO EXCITED but then I read it carefully, and indeed they were NOT referencing the March Forth Marching Band. How boring.

]]> Katelyn http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955639 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955639 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:45:32 -0800 Comment by Mark At Spitfire tonight you'll actually be able to watch the results on multiple TV's and HEAR them, AND get a drink quickly. Good times. Happy hour starts at 4pm. And you can eat some killer food while waiting for all the numbers to come in. Free wi-fi too, and plenty of outlets, so you can really geek out watching the TV and The Slog.

]]> Mark http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955655 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955655 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:56:03 -0800 Comment by Big Sven annie-

Quote was...

Legislative District caucuses that take place on April 5th where delegates for legislative districts will be elected.

...right? And that quote was factually incorrect, yes?

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955668 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955668 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:04:01 -0800 Comment by Bub What the hell is the Washington Bus? I got a bad impression of them at the Super Tuesday slog event at MOE. Bus reps gave buttons and talked to the white people on either side of my table but completely skipped dark skinned me. Is Washington Bus some sort of liberal white supremacist group?

]]> Bub http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955687 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955687 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:19:08 -0800 Comment by Fnarf @17: huh? how?

And if your @6 is correct, Obama wins big. Clinton doesn't need a near-tie; she needs huge victories everywhere. If Texas is 51-49 Clinton, and OH is 53-47 Clinton, Obama wins the nomination.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955711 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955711 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:37:14 -0800 Comment by Wenzilla @18:
What the hell is the Washington Bus? www.washingtonbus.org

]]> Wenzilla http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955752 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955752 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:11:28 -0800 Comment by more partays Hillary event at Nabob......

]]> more partays http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955807 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955807 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:36:20 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Fnarf, annie-

Delegates for legislative district caucuses were elected at precinct caucuses. State convention delegates and national convention delegates will be elected at legislative district caucuses.

One cannot elect legislative district delegates at the legislative district caucuses because the legislative district caucuses are only open to the legislative district delegates.

Yes?

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955816 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955816 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:42:28 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Fnarf@19:

Clinton doesn't need a near-tie; she needs huge victories everywhere.

I can see why you would like that to be the definition of a Clinton victory. Most people would argue, however, that if she wins TX and OH, by whatever margin, she has enough momentum to stay in through the convention. Regardless of the actual delegate count.

Whereas if she loses both TX and OH most observers believe she should consider conceding. Regardless of the delegate count.

If it's a split decision, then who knows what she should or will do. Though I believe in that situation she'd probably stay in through PA.

Approximately half of Democrats, even the larger pool of Democrats who have shown up this year for primaries and caucuses, want HRC to be President. Save the coronation ceremonies, Obama supporters.

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955829 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955829 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:49:22 -0800 Comment by savistar as one of the handful of dark skinned people at Moes on Super Tuesday, I can assure you that the Bus is NOT a white supremacist group. Quite the contrary. I volunteered when the Bus campaigned for Marilyn Strickland in Tacoma last year -she won - and is the only person of color elected to serve on Tacoma's City Council, local school board and Pierce County Government. check out the issues and people the Bus cares about at www.washingtonbus.org

]]> savistar http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955842 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955842 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:58:46 -0800 Comment by ~mini #18 - Bub. Wow that was thoughtful of you. Funny, when I think there is something strange or unfair about someone or an organization, I actually do the work to ask questions and challenge the situation. But not Bub. Just sits in a booth and points fingers because it's easier than engaging. Sigh. Too bad you didn’t take the time to check us out. You might have learned something, made friends and effected change. ~mini (@Moe bar tonight if you have the sense of self to actually converse about your assumptions)

]]> ~mini http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955849 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955849 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:03:51 -0800 Comment by ~mini #18 - Bub. Wow that was thoughtful of you. Funny, when I think there is something strange or unfair about someone or an organization, I actually do the work to ask questions and challenge the situation. But not Bub. Just sits in a booth and points fingers because it's easier than engaging. Sigh. Too bad you didn’t take the time to check us out. You might have learned something, made friends and effected change. ~mini (@Moe bar tonight if you have the sense of self to actually converse about your assumptions)

]]> ~mini http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955851 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955851 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:04:36 -0800 Comment by Fnarf It's a nice line of "effect change" patter, but you didn't answer his question: why did your representative only talk to the white people at his table, and skip over him?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955984 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c955984 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:55:00 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Maybe cause he was eating, Fnarf?

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c956038 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c956038 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:22:08 -0800 Comment by Bub @#20: Thanks for the referral to the web site!

]]> Bub http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c956139 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c956139 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:27:52 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Everyone should boycott Moe's tonight to raise Bus-racism awareness.

Spitfireee!

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c956151 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c956151 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:33:49 -0800 Comment by Jonny on the Spot "Bus-racism?"
Wait..Who is racist against buses? That's bunk. Buses are beautiful things. I love the Washington Bus and all buses. I'll be there tonight!

]]> Jonny on the Spot http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c956222 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c956222 2008 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:17:46 -0800 Comment by dark skinned goddez Funny that a white supremacist organization would have 1 staff person that is a person of color and 2 board members that are...

]]> dark skinned goddez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c957526 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/its_march_4#c957526 2008 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:39:03 -0800