(I don't actually dislike you, I'm just trying to fit in with the cool kids here, bitch)

A lot of people still have to buy gas whether they like it or not. This isn't evidence of shitty environmental values, it's just an attempt by the Mayflower Park to attract customers by doing something nice.

Crikes.

Oh, and a free ride on the Monorail. One-way.

Maybe someone chooses to stay at this hotel because gas is expensive. Maybe, unlike certain Stranger staffers, they don't live a privileged life within Seattle's outrageously expensive urban core. (Hell, maybe they live in West Seattle!) Driving here is really the only feasible option.

B) Why the fuck would you want stay at a hotel in Seattle with such shitty environmental values?

yawn

I dunno, I'm tired of the Erica bashing (both ways- on people in general and us towards her). Carless society? Probably outta consider a move to Manhattan ECB. It's about the only place where you could feasibly depend on real rapid transit. Possibly SF as well. Otherwise, at some point, in this country, one needs a car. You aren't gonna change that anytime soon.

By the way: Traffic in Manhattan and SF sucks. So probably no leisure rides on that bike of yours.

Or is it someone else at the Stranger?

So it might not be quite as homogenized as one would hope

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It's a good deal all round and there is nothing un-green about it, since their guests are going to buy that much fuel at some point anyway. In fact, a "green" gesture like giving away windmill toys or a bag of seeds or a book on "living green" would have a worse environmental impact, since it would use up resouces that the guest is unlikely to have used otherwise for something that he likely doesn't want.

Huh? Am I that out of touch in thinking you're full of it? This isn't fucking Leschi, dude. Courtney Love does not live across the street. I'm assuming ECB lives on Capitol Hill, and the neighborhood is really *not* that expensive, unless you own a place or have a ridiculous apartment, or you are well below the median income.

If you are willing to live in a place that say, doesn't have hardwood and lots of amenities, maybe is kind of small, and/or is somewhat divey, you could easily get a 1BR for around $800/mo. I realized rents are up (all over) but last I checked this was particularly true near Pike/Pine (Stranger offices). Median 2000 income for a female in Seattle was $35k. That is not much more than 25% spent on rent, which is perfectly reasonable.

On the other hand, take your $800 elsewhere, and you can get a pretty large 2BR, probably with some amenities (albeit equally divey).

You see, joykiller, some people, probably Erica, are willing to take their hypothetical $800 and make sacrifices in order to live a sustainable lifestyle as an abused and unappreciated alt-weekly columnist.

On the other hand, others think, "I truly *must* have hardwood floors, a dishwasher, and a yard". Those people take their $800, find an apartment in a far off land like Northgate, and proceed to live a totally unsustainable lifestyle, driving their car into downtown everyday like a royal douchebag because the bus is icky.

Who exactly was the privileged one again? If you consider median income privileged, ok, but most of Capitol Hill is just NOT privileged.

Now, Erica, as for question B, you seem to think handing out these cards is going to cause people to buy more gas than they would have otherwise, which I think is a totally unfounded assumption.

Also, capitalism. Say it with me now: capitalism.

When did you mortgage SLOG as your personal living space?

@25, you're right. I'm sure ECB scrimps and saves her journalist's salary (wages?) just so she can afford a small Cap Hill apt., comforted by the fact that she's the sustainablest. (Then takes a three-week vacation to Spain.)

But don't go and think TOO highly of yourself. You are just another hipster internet douche who wears buddy holly glasses who think they are way cooler in their used corolla than they really are.

10 years ago, you were likely jamming at some Renn fair somewhere.

1) Families with 2 kids would cost them upwards of $2000 at times to travel to Seattle from ANYWHERE by plane. Most people can drive their car the same distance for cheaper. Also, many families like to drive to "see the country".

2) Weren't there many studies that said Airplane's and Cruises were worse to the enviroment then anything else? Aren't these people helping by not flying when they could drive? Also, my family lives all over King County. When family visits they need a rental car to visit my grandparents, my sister, me, and my parents. There is no bus system to get them around. And we get the privacy of a car to chat about whatever we want.

So I don't entirely understand. Isn't it better to reward people that drove from say, San Fransisco then flew with an airplane? The train isn't really an option, as it takes DAYS and is unreliable and constantly late.

Go throw yourself in the South Platte, preferably near the outflow from the Purina Rendering plant.

Fnarf isn't Jesus, isn't worthy of worship, and can be a royal tool. "I am an honored guest"...

And used corollas suck ass, get a real job and buy a new car. Or do they not pay enough working the counter at silver platter?

Thanks Stranger for proving what douchebags you are.

I rescind my chickenshit and douchebag comments.