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Tuesday, March 4, 2008

Clinton Takes the Lead in Texas

posted by on March 4 at 19:51 PM

According to CNN… and CNN just called Ohio for Clinton. So you can calm down now, Erica.

And with exit polls showing that voters in Ohio that made a choice based on race picked Clinton… that means Clinton took the racist vote, right?

Says Sullivan

…however depressing it is, the Clintons have helped unearth those white voters who simply won’t vote for a black man. The Clintons’ argument for the super-delegates will almost certainly be that if Obama can’t win white working class voters in Ohio, he can’t win the general. This is the classic Clinton position. They will tell the Democrats that America is just too racist for Obama, and that fear is always a surer bet than hope.

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obama needs to win some big states. hopefully he will win PA.

Posted by SeMe | March 4, 2008 8:00 PM
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Fortunately for the Democrats, Obama is poised to increase his delegate lead across the night. So even though she "wins" two states, she will probably be further behind tomorrow than she was this morning. The question now is how far will she bend the party to hang on to some idea of a win.

Posted by torrentprime | March 4, 2008 8:01 PM
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sullivan is such a tool. so did senator obama win the mysoginist vote?

lets give both candidates credit. i wish we could be rid of tools like sullivan whose hatred of a particular candidate is just overwhelming. im supporting obama, but i worry that tools and war mongers like sullivan and hitchens support him more because of their hatred of HRC.

Posted by SeMe | March 4, 2008 8:15 PM
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Thanks again, Ohio. From the people who brought you GW Bush '04...

Posted by doctiloquus | March 4, 2008 8:27 PM
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Careful what you say about Sullivan, @3, you might get banned from here. Didn't you know Savage is Sullivan's mini-me?

Posted by tree | March 4, 2008 8:47 PM
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Obama... Hillary... I don't care who takes the final nomination as long as McCain doesn't win the general elec.

I'd rather have a lawn gnome as pres. instead of another republican.

Posted by GS | March 4, 2008 8:53 PM
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I live across the river from Cincinnati, and it's one of the most segregated cities in America. Anyone remember the race riots & police lockdown in the 90s? So this result doesn't surprise me. That said, as a left-leaning independent, I'd happily vote for McCain over Clinton.

Posted by CW | March 4, 2008 9:10 PM
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So Hillary Clinton has put together a winning coalition of the racist, the old and the unemployed? In a state that will go for McCain in the general anyway. Awesome!! The future clearly belongs to the Democrats with Hillary Clinton as their leader.

Posted by FDR, spinning . . . | March 4, 2008 9:35 PM
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Here's what I don't get, Clinton and Obama are practically the same candidate... I mean, aside from the tiny piddling differences they've mentioned (and the differences are tiny indeed), why would anyone say, "yeah, I'd vote for obama, but never for hillary" or vice versa. They're both middle-road democrats. They might as well be twins for how similar their policy agendas are. McCain is from a whole different family... how can people say, I'd only vote for the woman twin but never the black one (or the other way around)? Strange.

Hillary... Barack... they're really two peas in a pod. The fact that the race is so close seems to support this. To say, "if I can't vote for obama, then I have to vote for McCain" seems odd. McCain is way more different than the HillaryObama combined creature.

But, of course, that's just how I've seen this whole thing.

Posted by GS | March 4, 2008 10:48 PM
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Sullivan is a freaking Republican. Can the Slog/Stranger staff just take a damn break from quoting the mofo, already? Give it a rest. Quoting Sullivan on Democratic politics (lest we forget that this is not, yet, the national election, but contests within the parties -- Republican being the party Sullivan loves) is like quoting Maureen Dowd on feminism or Ronald Reagan on mental health policy/experience.

Posted by pbaitch | March 4, 2008 11:52 PM
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the Clintons have helped unearth those white voters who simply won’t vote for a black man.

You generally don't have to unearth racists. Don't they 'come out of the woodwork'?

Dan, that quote from Sullivan is the reason that I stopped reading his Daily Dish. His vehement hatred toward Hillary was just unseemly. I could not take another point of vitriol from him. This has been about 9 months now that I have not gone over to read him.

He has lost this reader for good.

You might tell him this while you have pancakes with him.

Posted by sheila | March 5, 2008 3:19 AM
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Stupid working people! only thinking of themselves not wealthy,conservative British commentators with neo-colonialist fetishes.

Posted by Sully SuperFan | March 5, 2008 8:04 AM
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It is true that the policy platforms of Clinton and Obama are virtually indistinguishable. However, the primary difference between the two is that a Clinton nomination will unite the Republicans behind McCain in a way that even McCain himself cannot begin to dream of. Republicans are not wholly enamored with McCain, but the conservative wing will most certainly back him if a Clinton enters the equation. If there is any doubt that this is probable, look no further than the recent NY Times/McCain Lobbyist episode--McCain actually gained traction and funding from the right because the so-called "liberal" newspaper "attacked" him. Imagine the support he'll get when Clinton becomes the dish du jour?

And to go a step further--suppose she is somehow able to pull off the national--what do you think the next four years will be like? Yes, she's a "fighter" and she can "fight the Republican attack machine." But that is the point--we don't want a Ken Starr redux. We don't NEED the drama. We want to move on. That is the promise of Obama as the only viable alternative.

Posted by Hopeful in '08 | March 5, 2008 8:53 AM
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wow, andrew sullivan does have his fist up the stranger's collective behind...freaking gay republcians, gotta let them have a voice in all of this...ughhh!

Posted by uhmmm | March 5, 2008 9:06 AM

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