I would hate to be the UPS guy forced to deliver all that oil.

That sound you just heard was Ed Murray dusting off his donor list...

Right - because the Federal Government has been SO accurate (and honest!) about everything Iraq was (and is) doing...

Didn't ol' Jim say during that trip that Bush would "lie us into war". And wasn't he correct? Does it really matter who paid for the plane ticket? If the DoJ was worth a damn, Cheney and Bush would be facing charges of treason and perjury. Instead we get this crap.

Are these the same Federal Prosecutors that have been found to have been appointed based on their hatred for the Constitutional restrictions on Church and State?

Yeah, sure, like we'd believe anything they say ...

(psst, where's bin Laden, morons? ever thought of looking in Pakistan?)

Well, at least the taxpayers didn't have to pay for the trip. We should be happy.

Whether we should have invaded Iraq to depose Saddam or not, it's disingenuous to pretend that he wasn't a sworn enemy of the United States and an all-around bad guy. A lot of people DID pretend that; that Iraq was a happy land of flowers and balloons. Baghdad Jim's grandstanding didn't accomplish fuck-all as far as preventing war goes, but it was probably illegal.

Illegal? The whole War is illegal. Heck, some of us will be turning in the war criminals occupying our White House for the bounties, it's that illegal ...

All this shows is that Saddam was more serious about avoiding war than we were.

ok, I'm dense... could somebody spell out the significance of this for me? So the leader of a foreign state that we were considering war with paid to fly some US congressmen out to see if war could be avoided. Is this illegal because of the embargo, or because it went around the Bush administration, or because no one disclosed who paid for the trip?

It is illegal because fnarf consulted the oracle in the field behind his house ...

What did Jim accomplish, oh nothing, just lighted the beacon of rational thinking mid all the lies and looting and killing and war monger crazy.

Not much at all. He is an international voice of what America should and could be.

Sorry fnarf, your oracle is full of shit this evening.

Fnarf's right. And those of you who let your totally justified hatred of the war conflate into a totally unjustified defense of a total dick Middle Eastern tyrant are guilty of (at the very least) very lazy thinking.

And, just who thought or said Sadam had any redeeming qualities?

Of course there are about 20 or so tyrants out there at the moment, Africa seems really cursed in that regard, why not 20 wars to take them out? The Bush-McCain plan? Force democracy, American style, using war, for their sake. Police the planet with American cowboy military might.Oh bullshit and more shit.

But wait, those countries are not oil rich. I see. The plot thickens, at the very least is slicker and richer.

When it comes to lazy thinking ... well I think on this post it is Little Sven.

Yes, Adam, there are at least 20 tyrants out there in the world. And you shouldn't accept PR junkets from any of them. Speaking of lazy thinking, thank you for proving my point by confusing support for the war (which you imply I do, despite my explicit statement that I don't) with wupport for a tyrant (which Jim did, by taking his money.)