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drama and dysfunction? around the clintons? well knock me over with a feather.

The Clintonator cannot be stopped.

Isn't the ability to assemble and direct a team the single most important fundamental skill for a president to have? What kind of a team has Clinton put together here?

one with bigger egos than hers?

David Axelrod is the nicest, least corrupt, most honest campaign manager ever! He would never play any of these dirty eeeeeeeeeevil tricks!

Who is David Axelrod?

Remember that "phone call" an Obama staffer allegedly made to the Canadian Consulate about NAFTA? (from Dailykos)

According to the Globe and Mail this morning, it was Clinton's campaign that called.

The conversation turned to the pledges to renegotiate the North American free-trade agreement made by the two Democratic contenders, Mr. Obama and New York Senator Hillary Clinton.

Mr. Brodie, apparently seeking to play down the potential impact on Canada, told the reporters the threat was not serious, and that someone from Ms. Clinton's campaign had even contacted Canadian diplomats to tell them not to worry because the NAFTA threats were mostly political posturing.

The Canadian Press cited an unnamed source last night as saying that several people overheard the remark.

The news agency quoted that source as saying that Mr. Brodie said that someone from Ms. Clinton's campaign called and was "telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt."

Update: The CBC exonerates the Obama campaign:

According to CBC, all the details were wrong. Canada contacted the campaigns. Michael Wilson was not involved. And, most damning, they are now admitting that the memo at the heart of the controversy "may not accurately reflect what they were told".

Remember the last two presidential elections? The ones that the DLC threw away with their "centrist" bullshit? (Also from today's Dailykos)

Look who's working with the Clinton campaign:

In Austin on Feb. 21, Clinton had a solid debate performance, although her aides groaned as she accused Obama of offering "change you can Xerox." The line, advisers said, was offered during debate preparation by Bruce Reed, a Clinton White House official, but onstage it came across as forced and drew boos.

Clinton is getting her debate prep from Bruce Reed, the president of the DLC.

Clinton has been silent on her leadership role at the DLC, since it's not the sort of thing that people like to trumpet anymore. Reed has been an enthusiastic surrogate for Clinton, but the candidates don't always get to choose their supporters. (Al Wynn, anyone?)

But debate prep? Team Clinton has Team DLC firmly embedded in the campaign.

Update: Remember who top Clintonista James Carville wanted as DNC chair after 2006 in his attempted party coup? DLC executive director Harold Ford, who would clearly be a finalist for the gig in a Clinton administration.

Ask yourselves, do you want to win? Or do you want to continue the current Democratic party status quo that maintains corporate control while it disillusions and disenfranchises the very people that should be voting Democratic?

Well?

get with the program, superfan. we're not talking about the dirty evil tricks right now. this one's about how the clinton campaign functions like a family of raging alcoholics and co-dependents.

i like the part where mark penn passes out on the front lawn after a 3-day spin bender and patty solis-doyle wakes him up by turning on the sprinkler.

@7
if you are right we would expect this to be all over the news and used to devastating effect by the Obama campaign. And certainly it should be.

Others:
most presidents swore had aides who swore and god forbid, got into fights.
It's not all patty cake and kumbaya.

@3
the kind of team she has put together is the kind that won 3 of 4 most recently and hung in there after losing 12 and reversed O-mentum and has gotten nearly a tie in votes and is pretty close in delegates.

not bad.

@6
Axelrod is a long time Chicago political consultant who has known Obama for years. He is deeply tied into all those Chicago aldermanic Harold Washington versus Daley fights for years.

Obama does not exactly come from a new or changed political culture, actually,he comes from a chicago style political culture. He's not been out there condemning it btw. His biggest long term fundraiser is not charged with....well you know that story.

Axelrod would make a great porn star name :)

The Cabinet of Dr. Hillgari!

@7, that same story is posted on Bloomberg:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=aIUVrK0hWJ9Y&refer=canada

How healthy and well functioning the dem party must look to those independent and swing voters. This is not fuel for Obama's camp, rather it is doing the opposite for the Dems as a whole. How frustrating.

Hillary's Clinton will always be bigger than Barack's Caucus. Don't touch it or it might erupt!

Another story out of Canada about NAFTAgate. I wonder whether the U.S. MSM will investigate this?

"Quite a few people heard it," said one source in the room.

"He said someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. . . That someone called us and told us not to worry."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wharpleak0305/BNStory/National/home

You know, it didn't have to be this way. I'm sure a campaign could have been put together that didn't leave Clinton emanating anti-charm everywhere she went.

But these are the people she puts her faith in. And these are the people that she will fill the executive branch with, too, if given the opportunity.

#9 you should get hired by the Clinton spin machine.

"the kind of team she has put together is the kind that won 3 of 4 most recently and hung in there after losing 12"

Isn't that just a nicer way to say they've won 3 of 16 recently? As if "winning" a state even matters.

"reversed O-mentum"

I guess if you listen to the media narrative and the Clinton campaign. You realize big media makes more and more money the longer this contest goes on? Why would they accurately report Clinton's dismal chances of actually getting the nomination? They do not want the cash cow that is the 2008 Democratic primary to end.

Clinton netted, what, about 10-15 delegates in those 4 contests with 30% of total delegates at stake? That isn't reversing momentum. That isn't doing SHIT. It's a hollow victory, and it only sounds good if you drink the "winning states matters" kool-aid.

@17 - it's even more hollow when you consider that only a few months ago she was basically the default candidate, with significant leads in all the polls.

Since Texas was a dual contest, she really won 3 of 5, not 4, and comes out 9 delegates ahead for the day. She's not "pretty close" on delegates; Obama has an insuperable lead. And they're not "nearly a tie" on votes, either; Obama's ahead by 600,000.

The bullshit about "his biggest supporter" is beneath contempt.

You just keep repeating and repeating the same old lies, the same old garbage, unPC. You have less credibility than the guy with the cardboard sign outside the liquor store at this point.

When are you breaking out the "Obama is just like Karl Rove" meme that the Clintonistas are raving about now?

There's a CBC report on it as well, it was on the National News last night.

Guess not only is Sen Clinton a liar about her position on NAFTA, she got the PM of Canada to set up Obama for what she did.

Too bad none of the US media have any investigative reporters worth their salt any more ...

people say that clinton has all this experience, but the obama campaign seems to be operating like a well oiled machine--his ground game is like murder--and in contrast she can't put a team together and keep them on task and has a strategy that has been commonly referred to as "the kitchen sink" plan.

is this what a clinton administration would look like? this is the kind of operation she puts together with her 35 years of experience?

Please.

btw, which begs the question, is the obama team better organized and moving towards a common goal because they share a common vision? is the clinton team tripping all over itself because they've got more nuts and bolts than they know what to do with, but they can't build a machine to save themselves?

No one's going to complain about the WaPo censoring "fuck" in the article?

@23 - no, it's the WaPo, they hire Traitors and censor words. Everyone knows that. And they refuse to report on the facts of NAFTAgate.

I'd let some knob yell "fuck you" at me a few times for $10 million or whatever Penn is getting for this gig.

And Fnarf, Penn hasn't even had to give up his day job. How's that for belief in the cause. Unbelievable.