Slog - Comments on A Pastor Problem for Clinton, Too? http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too Barbara Ehrenreich says yes: There's a reason Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she's a lot more vulnerable than Obama. You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that "through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as "The... Copyright 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:25:46 -0800 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:21:51 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Move on Middle America won't understand or care. (i.e., no story here.)

]]> Move on http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975510 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975510 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:28:06 -0800 Comment by Big Sven I read the Mother Jones thing a month ago. It's a hack job piece full of innuendo from "close Clinton family friends." There's no smoking gun.

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975519 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975519 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:36:13 -0800 Comment by elenchos You can't all call yourselves The Family. You've got your Children of God, your Mansons, your ELF terrorists, and now Hillary's church. It's just arrogant to think your family is The Family. Unless they all really are the same family...?

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975526 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975526 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:40:30 -0800 Comment by Fnarf "Prayer Warriors"? Where have I heard THAT phrase before?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975531 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975531 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:42:45 -0800 Comment by tr00fteller And Bush goes to Bohemian Grove as well, no one gives a fawk!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

]]> tr00fteller http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975540 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975540 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:47:26 -0800 Comment by arduous Oh for frack's sake. I want an atheist for president, PLEASE. No more Goddy types in the oval office!

]]> arduous http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975541 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975541 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:48:14 -0800 Comment by vooodooo84 @6 too bad americans hate us more than the muslims

]]> vooodooo84 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975544 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975544 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:50:50 -0800 Comment by Kevin Erickson Jeff Sharlet, incidentally is the guy who pointed out to everyone that something major was up with Ted Haggard long before the sex scandal went down.

He's one of the nation's best religion journalists.

]]> Kevin Erickson http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975618 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975618 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:39:28 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty There's still no story here. So she's a Bible-thumper? Big whoop. If anything, that will endear her to the unwashed masses.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975621 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975621 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:44:25 -0800 Comment by Jeff It's all about this one from The Omega Man. Best "the family" ever!

]]> Jeff http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975628 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975628 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:50:25 -0800 Comment by wf Holy Shit!!!!

"Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao, the Family's current leader declares, "We work with power where we can, build new power where we can't.""

"According to the Fellowship's archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship's God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators. Clinton, says Schenck, has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance."

]]> wf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975714 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975714 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:15:56 -0800 Comment by viva http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/20/19265/9246/968/481100

]]> viva http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975723 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975723 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:21:43 -0800 Comment by Hernandez Not only has this already been well publicized, it's pretty much a non-issue. So they have a Christian bible study group in Congress...did you ever have any doubt that membership would be slanted in favor of Republicans?

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975725 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975725 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:23:12 -0800 Comment by Beguine I'm a little startled by the rampant scorn certain Clinton supporters have shown today towards the people they expect to reverse Obama's lead in the popular vote. I've seen several references to "unwashed masses" and "Joe Lunchpail" when referencing blue collar democrats. It'd be one thing if we were talking about the fundamentalist homophobes that make up the current base of the Republican party, but talking that way about a significant portion of one's own base seems a little, well, Republican. I'm not trying to start a "our supporters are better than your supporters" argument. Just...think about how you're talking about your own people.

]]> Beguine http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975731 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975731 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:28:06 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Oh, there are plenty of Republican and independent "unwashed masses" out there, Beguine. I wasn't necessarily referring to our beloved fellow Democrats.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975798 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975798 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:49:43 -0800 Comment by mydquin Hmmm... I wonder why the Stranger has not published the latest poll numbers showing that Obama is now tanking. Were you really that naive to think this wouldn't happen?

Congratulations, Blue Bloods, you have successfully f***ed the party again. Voters in 2 of the most important swings states have been disenfranchised. Dems have wasted millions because the blue bloods made a a well-orchestrated play for the primary with no regard for the general election. It's 1972 all over agin.

McGovern, Dukakis, Bradley, Dean, now Obama

Johnson, Carter, Clinton

Anyone else seeing a pattern?

]]> mydquin http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975826 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975826 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:36:44 -0800 Comment by kravitz Obama Leads McCain 48% to 43% In Latest CBS News Poll
http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/obama-leads-mccain-48-to-43-in-latest-cbs-news-poll/242/

You mean the newest poll where he beats McCain by seven points.

As in seven point lead.

Pretty nice pattern.

]]> kravitz http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975854 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975854 2008 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:55:25 -0800 Comment by mydquin I hate to burst your bubble, but that CBS poll was conducted from March 15 to March 18 BEFORE the Rev Wright fiasco became widely publicized.

The most recent Gallup poll has Hillary at 48% and Obama at 43% AND both are losing to McCain.

]]> mydquin http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975876 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975876 2008 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:10:44 -0800 Comment by infrequent clinton attending an all-female private bible study might endear he to more people. seriously. this will make her seem like "one of us" to the religious crowd -- a crowd that largely participates in gender-segregated small group private bible studies.

]]> infrequent http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975971 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/03/a_pastor_problem_for_clinton_too#c975971 2008 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:21:51 -0800