It's pretty obvious that Wisconsin was not a fair vote and should not count:

1. This is supposed to be the friggin' Democratic primary, but Wisconsin allowed pathetic independents to vote.
2. You think it's a coincidence that it was 3 degrees Fahrenheit on voting day? You think that was an accident? Don't be so naïve. The Obama campaign and the weather gods obviously conspired to produce these weather conditions, thus disenfranchising Hillary's core constituency, voters who are only marginally motivated.

Wisconsin doesn't count!

1. Because it's a caucus state!
2. Because of all the black voters!
3. Because it's a red state!

Oh, never mind. It's all about Texas!!! Or maybe Ohio.

Real-time Race Results: Updated February 19, 2008 - 9:51 PM (all times Eastern Standard)
Precincts Reporting 16%
Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner
Obama 91,312 56% 15 Winner
Clinton 70,871 43% 11

Although to do fair I guess it's a rally for Texas and not necessarily meant as a new national speech. But seriously, I could mutter these lines in my sleep at this point.

Should we not support the competent Hillary in her only realistic moment to take the presidency, and later, the engaging and bridge-building Barack, who will still be there for us, doubtless with a more focused and compelling agenda?

These United States, foundering, need a methodical, long, and satisfying electoral effort over the coming 16 years. Let us not, in our feverish anxiety for a new direction after a dry and fruitless period, blow our wad on Obama quite yet, but let the well-equipped Mrs. Clinton bear the hard brunt of the rough Bush years, and then, united, bring our politics to a new level with sunny and seductive Barack just when we are all primed and ready for real 21st century fireworks. Let us not seek selfish, desperate and relative gains, but turn their equally justified candidacies and our mutually inclusive needs into a pair of Democratic leaders that will, for the sake of all, come together.

...allows you to have some chickenshit to grouse about. Go do some research and come back with something that matters. This thing is going go on and on; you have the time.

In the Change we will solve all the big problems. Conflict, politics and partisanship will be gone. I mean, that's what the Change is all about.
It won't matter who is president after that, it will just be an administrative job. We may all be in the Unity Party then, too.

The Change is going to come.
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There won't be politics after The Change.
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The Change is going to come!
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This isn't the "loser/winner" type of situation, so then why must the normal "loser/winner" manners thing stand? If Hillary has decided not to congratulate Obama, then why, after several speeches where she refuses to congratulate him, should he also continue the supposed niceties and wait until she's done accusing him of plagiarism?

Congratulations, Obama supporters. As I said last week, it is indeed all over but the shouting.

it's also in line with decorum for the loser to call and congratulate the winner. clinton hasn't done that since january

There would have been so many concession calls, and she's so strapped for cash, that she would have had to call collect. And that's just awkward for everyone.

She did it with Maryland, DC, etc too...didn't even bother to thank the people who did cast a ballot for a third term for Bill.

Every time I start to feel positive about Obama, and start to come to terms with his inevitable victory, some douchebag opens their ungracious mouth and ruins it. And I have to start all over again.

Hey, JJ? You need us Clinton supporters if you're going to get your guy into the White House. We get discouraged and stay home, your guy stays the junior Senator from Illinois. Fucking think about that before the next time you post, m'kay?

I know it's gotta be tough now for you and other Clinton supporters. Realize,though, that this has been pretty hotly contested and emotions run high. I know I've said things, ahem, that weren't terribly productive.

Hillary Clinton is a fine Senator and a good American. She'd probably make a wonderful President, too. We're lucky to have two fine candidates competing for the Democratic ticket. But don't worry, soon our Obamatons will track you down, and you, too, will be drinking the kool-aid and chanting with the rest of us. j/k

Cheers.

elenchos, are you by any chance letting your kid brother / neighbor post under your name today? You're not being your usual articulate self. Perhaps you're drunk?

Has Elenchos had a hissy fit yet and threatened to bitch slap all of the Clinton supporters if they fuck up the election? If the answer is "no" then she's probably not drunk or posting from work.

Fuck that!

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080220/D8UTNA980.html

Yet another reason why she is deserving this loss.

Although I hope the same thing happens to McCain.

KOM, when you're on the ropes you need to block punches, not try to agree to split rounds so you come out on top.

It's also a fantastic bit of hubris to assume that the Dems will hold the presidency for 16 years. The Republicans haven't been able to do that since McKinley/Roosevelt/Taft.

I give it 24 hours.

Not that voters care. They don't.

Meanwhile, elenchos is someone that I know and like, and usually really enjoy reading. Unlike you. So fuck you.

ps- not to ruin your masturbatory fantasies or anything, but elenchos is a dude.

And I am way more interested in having a President Obama than a President Clinton III.