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If Clinton is trying to win long term she should not be alienating any states, or core democratic constituencies. She is not spinning to win the election, only the nomination and it looks a little desperate

Posted by vooodooo84 | February 14, 2008 10:25 AM
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To expand on the point from voodoo @1, Clinton's spin has been interpreted by most people to be belittling of Obama's victories, but her spin is simultaneously belittling of those states where Obama won. ECB, does it bother you that Clinton thinks we Washington voters are insignificant (which she has expressed through surrogates)?

Posted by Gabriel | February 14, 2008 10:29 AM
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As a Clinton supporter, even I have to say that this is just plain tacky.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 14, 2008 10:32 AM
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Seriously, can anyone say that her campaign has been well-run? They pretty much wrote off huge segments of the population as not worth a minute of their time. The Obama team has shown a willingness to reach out to groups that the conventional wisdom says shouldn't like them, and actually ask for their vote - and it's worked. How many victories can you spin before you have to acknowledge that the guy just might be good at this?

Clinton's folks talk about being the only ones prepared to handle the GOP's political attack machine, but they can't even subdue an alleged total novice of little substance.

Posted by tsm | February 14, 2008 10:38 AM
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The difference is Clinton thinks she's royalty and should just be given the nomination. They had no idea that someone else would come along and work hard to take her cookies away. She deserves to lose.

Posted by AMB | February 14, 2008 10:40 AM
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As a Tacky supporter, even I have to say that this is just plain uncalled for.

Posted by infrequent | February 14, 2008 10:42 AM
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isnt this just reaffirming that the people in those states made the right decision in face of clintonian dismissiveness?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | February 14, 2008 10:55 AM
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cant this be spun back; if your state doesnt go hillary you arent significant, so maybe you should vote for obama and become significant?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | February 14, 2008 10:57 AM
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@4 She has adopted a Rovian strategy. She does not want to win a broad based victory. That's beyond her. She wants to win 50%+1. In both the primary and the general, her plan is to win the large states and then just enough small states to put her over the top.

Obama, on the other hand, knows that most of the largest states are solidly Democratic anyhow, and is seeking to get those constituencies that have been ignored, as well as bringing in new voters. It's a machine vs. a movement, and the movement is winning, and I really think that millions of voters throughout red states will be energized enough to win a whole lot of those too.

Posted by Gitai | February 14, 2008 11:00 AM
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I'd like to congratulate Illinois on becoming officially Significant. Although we mere Washingtonians can't claim that honor this year, we can at least hope to equal your greatness in 2012.

Posted by oh well. | February 14, 2008 11:01 AM
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i truly hate what she is doing. no state should be called insignificant. at all. even filthy insignificant utah.

if she does become the nominee, she should now understand that she has pissed off a lot of democrats in 22 states.

anybody remember when gregoire ignored seattle? what happened? she almost blew it.

least graceful exit eva!

Posted by cochise. | February 14, 2008 11:03 AM
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@10.... no, we still have the primary!

Posted by infrequent | February 14, 2008 11:15 AM
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Y'all are playing her game here. If you're hating your opponent you're losing sight of your guy.

Posted by Fnarf | February 14, 2008 11:19 AM
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except most of us can somehow link our guy's strength into hating hillary's ineffective 50 state campaign

Posted by Bellevue Ave | February 14, 2008 11:26 AM
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Fnarf @ 13: No, calling bullshit on Clinton's dismissiveness isn't "losing sight" of anything. I for one am not playing ECB's game. If Clinton were to win the nomination, there is plenty in her for me to support and I don't question the sanity of those who currently support her. But she's currently running a lame-ass campaign against Obama that smacks of desperation, and it's insulting to a huge swatch of Democrats.

Posted by Gabriel | February 14, 2008 11:30 AM
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excellent point, fnarf. i sincerely agree. let's keep positive regardless of what this process brings. i am serious, i'll try to do better.

Posted by infrequent | February 14, 2008 11:31 AM
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it's like taunting and pushing a pacifist just to see if you can get them to swing back. swinging back does not help the cause, or the party.

Posted by infrequent | February 14, 2008 11:33 AM

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