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I think Denver was an inside joke.

Posted by Mr. Poe | February 21, 2008 11:20 AM
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Denver has as many transit options as, say, Chicago, but without the deep dish and hotdog fetish.

Posted by Will/HA | February 21, 2008 11:24 AM
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St. Louis is # 14!?!? Have they ever been to The Lou? Each person is fatter than the next!

Posted by Mike in MO | February 21, 2008 11:29 AM
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The city blurbs are stupid, and perhaps inaccurate. Pittsburgh's downtown only has three sides, as it is a triangle. Only two of these sides are bound by water. Whatever.

Posted by oljb | February 21, 2008 11:30 AM
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Minneapolis #4? Milwaukee #8?

It's like they didn't even visit these cities. And I love how Cooking Light uses fish fries and frozen custard to demonstrate how healthy Milwaukee is. WTF?

Posted by C | February 21, 2008 11:34 AM
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What @5 said - Minneapolis above San Francisco? You've got to be kidding me. The land of sprawl, deep fried cheese, and living indoors five months a year?

Posted by tsm | February 21, 2008 11:39 AM
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Have you ever even been to Denver? Obviously not.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 21, 2008 11:48 AM
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Denver sucks shit in hell. I'd rather go to Detroit.

Posted by Mr. Poe | February 21, 2008 11:56 AM
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Congradulations to the world of light eaters who now understand something we've know here in Seattle for a long long time... with of course a few small corrections that shall now remain hidden as there are other reasons to be over-joyed for more Stranger madness and cool photo-ops....

As I am currently working on a personal mission to get all right winger conservative anti everythingers but what they need in an attempt to sign on and bow down to the wonderful world of all things Stranger...

and I will once again take the opportunity to use this place as a personal blog on the slog and say thank you... as in "The Stranger your wonderful" and without you I'd be lost cause I can't remember.... but enough of me and on to the Eric Grandy interrogation of John Darnielle.

I did try to use Johns blog space in the event I receive criticism but alas.... it was not meant to be posted there.

John and Eric... here is my unsolicited sage appearance and response to your enlightenmental discourse.... as the sum of two is greater than the some of one.... well maybe.

The idea God loves... (and I use that lightly as I feel John is close to the heart of the matter...) music, is close to singularity is, as an ensamble is God, and I think that God is on vacation far away from here.

We all know the feeling of "it's been done before", ahead of us or in spite of our attempts to reinvent the molecular chains of our own demise.

That's why retro is the new in.

In our mortal beds, life is made up of small bits of inexpensive coincidence and very large chunks of cheap whatevers.

That's why you'll find inspiration safely jettisoned away on a destination you never agreed to visit because that's the only new experiance worth investigating for the intrepid adventurers who are fearless.

Me... I'm still a chicken with out a head, yet I am working on that solution; also, methodolog... spiritual or mechanical, organic in sequence or structured so as to protect the purity of whatever the hell it is that needs protection can be attainable if we do not fear the unreachable.

This may appear as looking more rhetorical in nature as a run on sentance or grammatical error, yet I support the theory with the observational experience that a person or group can try to live in a cave and reinvent the lapse of time and attention and the favor of being in fashion, therefore bringing an end to nilhilistic existentialismic rhythms that sap the energy from spontaneous addition, or we can readily admit that in theory... (i.e. metaphorical hopscotching), I ripped off your recycled thought from your mothers old friend when you spoke in your sleep and then told someone a hundred years ago in a marconi megaphone that was impolite in mocking tones of shadowed embarrassments. The same applies to me, as you, as them, as we, as us.

Of course you don't have to agree to relativism as it has already been proven and I respect the fact you'll ask your friends who the hell is this snark( substitue appropriate word here for your defense) and why does he know my old editors girl friends old fiance's next door neighbors uncles grandma?

It may be because I was in the living room watching the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show why'll you were sperm in your mothers womb and God was on vacation thinking about the color of your eyes.

As to nilhilism... that is where I am presently studying my younger musical peers attention deficit disorders and spontaneous corruptional hang-overs from previous generational distortions because in the end of it all... most chickens without a head prefer to find one ( a head ) before changing the karmic order of designed If...

and that my good and constant friends at The Stranger is why you kill me softly with your published papers...

including the laughter and tears that flow from my spit like wind on the pavement.

p.s.,
...ya!( sheesh!!) The cops should have come sooner to bust the homeless people blowing each other in the alley... that way I wouldn't have to flip off the sky in disgust at the illegal spying and wiretaps unto befor here, before mentioned previously futurized.

Daniel Bennett Kieneker
musical group, Low Earth Orbiter

Posted by daniel bennett kieneker | February 21, 2008 12:08 PM
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Yup, just as I thought - nobody's been to Denver.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 21, 2008 12:11 PM
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Hey, Kieneker-asswipe: Post that cark in response to Mudede's posts; nobody will ever notice the difference.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 21, 2008 12:18 PM
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Holy crap. More Low Earth Orbiter please! 5280, I think you'll see him if you look directly overhead....

Denver's got a pretty lively revitalized center in the whatevertheycallit, warehouse district, kind of like a more charming, more affordable Belltown minus the snooty trendoids and aggro drug addicts. Like Broadway used to be, like the Pearl in Portland or the Inner Harbor in Baltimore wishes it was. I'll bet that's what they're talking about.

Posted by Fnarf | February 21, 2008 12:21 PM
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Where does this Becky Ohlsen live? Surely she's never spent any real amount of time in Seattle to be a true judge of anything. Sure we're pretty healthy and green here but on the "inclusive attitude" scale, she missed the mark by a miles. I'm sure she was here for a short weekend and said, "Oh my look at all the friendly people!" not realizing it is just a thinly disguised veneer. And while we do have a lot of visual green here, our air and water is more polluted than most places.

Posted by Chilled | February 21, 2008 12:22 PM
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Which "most places" are you thinking of, Chilled? Our air and water are pretty clean by big-city standards. Been swimming in the East River lately?

Posted by Fnarf | February 21, 2008 12:24 PM
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Holy extraneous ellipses, Batman!

Posted by Jane | February 21, 2008 12:25 PM
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Is that you, Garrett?

Posted by kid icarus | February 21, 2008 12:26 PM
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Lodo, Fnarf.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 21, 2008 12:57 PM
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"Nearly 85 percent of city residents report exercising regularly and 89 percent say they are in good or better health, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data"

91% of Seattle residents also report being serial liars.

Denver's a great place to get drunk. They also do eat a lot of deep dish pizza and cheese-whatever. They must be including Boulder, where meat is illegal.

Posted by wbrproductions | February 21, 2008 1:03 PM
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WOW - Seattle should have been disqualified for having a viaduct and no light rail - how could a magazine without an axe to grind possibly not see that Seattle sucks. When they wrote the article the Ballard Denny's hadn't even been saved and the greatest block in the city had been closed.

Posted by ouch | February 21, 2008 1:04 PM
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I walked to work today. I doubt many people did in Denver. My boss biked to work. I doubt many bosses did in Denver.

Posted by Will in Seattle | February 21, 2008 1:30 PM
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Lot of employees in Denver walked to work today. Lots of bosses rode bikes. Many employees in Seattle drove to work today, and many bosses did too.

I lived there for the first 25 years of my life. I walked EVERYWHERE. The actual core of Denver (not counting the sprawly burbs) is extremely pedestrian and cyclist friendly. People there are very active. REI has two flagship stores: Seattle and Denver.

One thing that puts Denver way out ahead of Seattle: the weather in Denver is perfect. 300+ days of sun a year. Winters a very mild.

Posted by Wax Trax | February 21, 2008 1:46 PM
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Probably as many people walked to work in Denver as they did in Seattle, Will. And just as many biked- it's way more bikeable than here due to lack of hills and rain. In general, though, it's harder to get around without a car because transit is even worse. (At least it was when I lived there.) But I can see it being high up there in "healthy living" stakes. They're all into the outdoors and shit.

Posted by Abby | February 21, 2008 1:47 PM
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Denver is a GREAT place to get drunk. Especially if you're not used to the altitude. Kersplat! And I live 15 blocks from downtown; I walk it all the time.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 21, 2008 1:48 PM
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And Abby, the light rail has made a humongous impact on transit. It's nothing like you remember.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 21, 2008 1:58 PM
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Sustainlane overall rankings show:

1. Washington, DC
2. New York, NY
3. San Francisco, CA
4. Boston, MA
5. Philadelphia, PA
6. Chicago, IL
7. Baltimore, MD
8. Seattle, WA

So ... we're not no. 1 on all lists and lots of other "big cities" leave us behind on sustainability factors.

The good news:
we're no. 1 in self-perceived & self-assumed healthiness, sustainability and overall wonderfulness. No other city comes close, on that yardstick.

Posted by unPC | February 21, 2008 2:00 PM
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@9.... Day 5 of a Crystal binge?

Anyhow, I do hear that Colorado is the leanest state. Can't remember where I heard that, many people I know from that state are active. The southern cities I've seen apparently consider a ride on a rascal mobility scooter to get some fried as exercise.

Posted by DJSauvage | February 21, 2008 2:01 PM
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Cooking Light magazine? Please. Every lame publication that wants a little attention puts together one of those Top Ten Cities lists. You can pull a few stats off the internet and get one of these stories out in an afternoon. Nobody should take these things seriously for a second.

Posted by twee | February 21, 2008 2:10 PM
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They're probably thinking of Boulder.

Posted by Kiru Banzai | February 21, 2008 2:13 PM
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Denver, Golden, Boulder - it's all pretty much one big mishmosh anymore.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | February 21, 2008 2:25 PM
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That so on the light rail, 5280? There's a station near my parent's house but my dad said he only used it once (trying to get to one of the stadiums for some involved fundraising thing at my sister's school) and it's not quite at the standard he'd like. But we're snobs. Good to know they at least actually built something, though.

Posted by Abby | February 21, 2008 3:14 PM
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Seattle sucks for pedestrians.

Posted by DOUG. | February 21, 2008 3:14 PM
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No, I'm sorry, Seattle is #1 and #2 for biking to work and walking to work.

Reality may suck, but them's the facts.

Posted by Will in Seattle | February 21, 2008 8:42 PM

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