Slog - Comments on Upset of the Night? http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night If I seem inundated with Clinton spin this evening, it's because I am. The Obama campaign has been largely silent today, at least on the email front. Meanwhile, the Clinton camp has been sending out "Hillary Wire" updates throughout the day, and is sending out "talking points" after each poll closing and/or state call. With that in mind, here's what I just received from camp Clinton under the subject heading, "UPSET OF THE NIGHT - MASSACHUSETTS FOR CLINTON": One of the biggest surprises of the night is Massachusetts. Despite the fact that Senators Ted Kennedy and John Kerry were actively... Copyright 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:15:06 -0800 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:22:22 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by brad ?? weird.
he was down by 20 in January. It's all about the expectations game, isn't it?

]]> brad http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925647 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925647 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:20:45 -0800 Comment by McCain FTW! Clinton vs. McCain in Nov

]]> McCain FTW! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925657 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925657 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:22:46 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Barack Obama was never expected to win Mass. That's bullshit. It did break for Clinton by a larger margin than she was expecting, so she'll pick up a few of the delegates that she lost in Illinois and Georgia (where Obama won bigger than expected).

They're still tied, people.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925663 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925663 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:23:45 -0800 Comment by longball HRC campaign is getting called out all over the TV right now for this spin job. Obama was polling there at about 22%. So since he is running at 39%, it is an upset, for Obama. He is getting more delegates there than expected.

]]> longball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925690 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925690 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:28:01 -0800 Comment by tiptoe tommy Even the Slog is full of spinmeisters...Obama's losses are really victories in disguise. And Clinton's wins are really less than expected. Please give me a break. What was really important was the 17 voters in Iowa and New Hampshire. Is this any way to pick a candidate?

]]> tiptoe tommy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925717 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925717 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:33:29 -0800 Comment by gnossos NPR also just reported that one of the surprising things about her win in NY was how much money Clinton spent there and the huge get out the vote effort they mounted. They found it surprising that she had to campaign as hard as she did (noting that Obama barely ran an ad in Illinois).

]]> gnossos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925725 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925725 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:34:40 -0800 Comment by Christian So your response to receiving Clinton spin is to cut and paste it?

]]> Christian http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925731 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925731 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:35:59 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave obama cant win the democratic base...but they would vote for him against a republican?

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925739 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925739 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:38:13 -0800 Comment by Reality Check Watching the Clintonista campaign spin, you realize exactly what asshats this campaign really has for it's strategy consultants.

Hillary and camp are nothing but slime, and the SLOG is doing nothing but regugitating what their spin doctors are dishing out.

Geessshhhhh

]]> Reality Check http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925748 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925748 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:40:32 -0800 Comment by UnoriginalAndrew @ 7 - most Democratic voters are going to vote for whoever wins the nomination, the Slog's internecine bullshit aside.

]]> UnoriginalAndrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925761 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925761 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:43:19 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt Jesus. I'm pretty sure that Clinton also outspent Obama by a wide margin in Mass. She has no shame.

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925762 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925762 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:43:34 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Oh, please. These are election night press releases. Not "slime".

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925764 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925764 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:43:47 -0800 Comment by UnoriginalAndrew @ 10 - that was supposed to be @ 8.

]]> UnoriginalAndrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925770 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925770 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:44:45 -0800 Comment by Gitai I agree with the spin this time. I didn't expect Obama to win, but I did expect it to be much tighter race.

]]> Gitai http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925778 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925778 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:46:01 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Guess you guys can just get shitfaced now - it's pretty much over for tonight. Don't expect CA results tonight; it ain't gonna happen. GO HILLARY!

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925788 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925788 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:48:18 -0800 Comment by Yes! President McCain!!!

]]> Yes! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925797 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925797 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:50:58 -0800 Comment by Kevin Erickson this is bullshit, hillary was ALWAYS expected to win MA

]]> Kevin Erickson http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925799 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925799 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:51:33 -0800 Comment by Babaloo Go Hillary!

]]> Babaloo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925809 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925809 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:54:40 -0800 Comment by NaFun Agreed, I was thinking the same thing about MA.

Kerry and Kennedy endorsements apparently aren't worth a ton in their home state.

exileinWestSeattle says Deval Patrick is being overlooked here. If Fnarf is right, then maybe they were quality endorsements after all. hmm. This requires more beer.

]]> NaFun http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925821 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925821 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:56:18 -0800 Comment by Gabriel Clinton's basically saying "fuck you" to Kennedy and Kerry. Not sure that will help her down the road. And calling Mass an upset is pretty funny.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925898 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c925898 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:16:22 -0800 Comment by OR Matt It's a Northeast thing if anything. While they may not necessarily "like" Clinton as a person, they are more familiar with her record than Obama's who is in Illinios. And she actually does have a decent record as a Senator in New York (which she will NEVER get credit for).

It's a Northeast thing. People are more focused on a competent person to a do a job and not necessarily a likable one. And I have to admit, Hilliary isn't the easiest person to like.

]]> OR Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c926050 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c926050 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:56:55 -0800 Comment by OR Matt Besides ... this is one of the few cases where the Senators endorsements have more NATIONAL pull than state pull ... go figure.

]]> OR Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c926063 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c926063 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:01:06 -0800 Comment by cbc Um she was supposed to win here and he was supposed to lose. I don't understand how this is an upset.

]]> cbc http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c926548 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/upset_of_the_night#c926548 2008 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:22:22 -0800