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<description>The Wall Street Journal has an editorial this morning that tries—voila GOP playbook—to recast Obama as &quot;negative.&quot; They strip out all the soaring rhetoric of hope from one of his recent speeches to find a lot of angry Edwards-style populism. They write: Here is the edited version, stripped of the flying surfboard: &quot;Our road will not be easy . . . . . . where lobbyists write check after check and Exxon turns record profits . . . That&apos;s what happens when lobbyists set the agenda. . . It&apos;s a game where trade deals like Nafta ship jobs overseas and...</description>
<copyright>Copyright 2008</copyright>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:41:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Andrew</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>For so long the GOP assumed they would run against Hillary and they were super thrilled!  Now that they may not be running against her I suppose their world is crashing down on them. HA HA HA!!</p>]]></description>
<author>Andrew</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938059</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938059</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:34:44 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will/HA</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>For those playing the "Josh Feit SLOGGIN': The Home Game", thats:</p>

<p>"Burn on ___."</p>

<p>CHECK!</p>

<p>"___ unwittingly makes my point about ___."</p>

<p>NOT CHECK.</p>

<p>"[1970's Washington Bullets reference]"</p>

<p>NOT CHECK.</p>

<p>One out of three!</p>]]></description>
<author>Will/HA</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938062</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938062</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:44:31 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Must . . . eat . . . brains.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fifty-Two-Eighty</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938065</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938065</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:03:28 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mickymse</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm kinda with you here, Josh... Either Obama's "left-wing Democratic analysis" (as you put it) is correct, or it's not.</p>

<p>The fact that Democrats are turning out twice as many people for primaries and caucuses in the election season so far would seem to suggest that the right-leaning WSJ editorial board simply doesn't understand how out of touch many people in this country think the Bush administration has been.</p>

<p>And I don't see McCain challenging much of the Bush doctrine when it comes to economics and where the focus of our government should be.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mickymse</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938080</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938080</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:32:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by DOUG.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"... <b><i>angry</i></b> Edwards-style populism." Looks like you're reading from the same lazy-ass playbook, Josh.</p>]]></description>
<author>DOUG.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938092</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938092</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:43:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by some dude</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>i don't have the time, but somebody could give the WSJ treatment to reagan's speeches.  that would make for a fun read</p>]]></description>
<author>some dude</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938101</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938101</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:55:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by hairball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I like Obama, but seriously, what are his concrete plans? Soaring rhetoric is energizing, but is that it? Obama is a little spooky to me, it's like waiting for a shoe to drop.</p>]]></description>
<author>hairball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938107</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938107</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:00:21 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by flamingbanjo</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"My God, when we strip out all the positive-sounding words, he sounds <i>angry</i>!"</p>

<p>Witness the awesome power of the ellipses!  </p>

<p>In other news, check out Lindy West's review of <i>National Treasure: Book of Secrets:</i><br />
<i>"But if it were up to me to ... sum up this movie, I&#8217;d say ... it&#8217;s the best movie I&#8217;ve ever seen."</i></p>

<p><br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>flamingbanjo</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938109</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938109</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:02:21 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by also</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone else struck by the similarity between this "analysis" and the previous one about the Clinton campaign's spin on why losing primaries doesn't matter?</p>

<p>Both rely on stripping out key bits of information to adjust the truth to fit a foregone conclusion.  If you only look at half the truth, Clinton is well positioned.  If you only look at half the speech, Obama is angry and populist.</p>]]></description>
<author>also</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938113</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938113</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:04:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Andrew</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Obama needs to have definite ideas or Hillary will wipe his butt of the face of the planet.  And I will have to rethink my support of Obama.  But then, I'd like Hillary to have some definite ideas too.  Beyond her "35 years of experience". </p>]]></description>
<author>Andrew</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938117</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938117</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:06:40 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Get a clue, hairball.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938137</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938137</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:26:33 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by NaFun</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@7</p>

<p>Stop being a fucking douche and go do some reading:<br />
<a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/" rel="nofollow">http://www.barackobama.com/issues/</a></p>

<p>Then you can come back and talk with the rest of us.</p>]]></description>
<author>NaFun</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938173</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938173</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:46:21 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>seriously, why cant people look up where obama stands on his website? speeches are to inspire, not wax policy. </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938189</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938189</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:55:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Orv</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Republicans would *love* to see Obama insert more policy into his speeches.  Then they could cast him as a boring, out-of-touch wonk like they did Gore.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Orv</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938200</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938200</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:00:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by DOUG.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>...and John "I've Got A 15-Point Plan" Kerry.</p>]]></description>
<author>DOUG.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938239</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938239</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:19:24 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>They're <b>very</b> worried.</p>

<p>Good.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938268</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938268</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:32:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by hairball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I had already read his issues page, but it's all boilerplate and spin. For example he says:<br />
<blockquote><br />
The Bush tax cuts give those who earn over $1 million dollars a tax cut nearly 160 times greater than that received by middle-income Americans. </blockquote><br />
But he doesn't realize that the top 50% of wage earners pay over 90% of the income taxes. Obama is recyling class warfare spin. The rich get large tax cuts because they pay large taxes (loopholes aside) period.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>hairball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938313</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938313</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:01:26 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hm</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>hairball,</p>

<p>It's not that he doesn't realize that. He, and everyone else here, knows it. But the rich pay large taxes because the tax system works proportional to what you can afford. Why do we first cut the taxes of the rich when, as one of the richest countries in the world, the gap in incomes is widening and people are struggling nationwide?</p>

<p>If you don't think this is a problem, I wouldn't expect you to even vote for a Democrat.</p>]]></description>
<author>Hm</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938353</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938353</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:14:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by hairball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>That's ridiculous Hm. What incentive would there be for anyone to become successful if they knew that the wealthier they got, their taxation would increase disproportionally without relief. Name the last poor person that gave you a job.</p>

<p>I vote democratic, not socialist.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>hairball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938412</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938412</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:32:23 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Justin</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Then it's great that that's not what's happening! Instead it's the middle-class, average worker who goes without relief.</p>

<p>Proportionate taxation is not socialist, and flat tax is stupid.</p>]]></description>
<author>Justin</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938428</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938428</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:40:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hm</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>hairball, I know you weren't proposing a "Flat tax"-- just saying that incentive to become successful should include some taxation relief. I don't think that's a priority.</p>

<p>The average CEO makes more than 230 times his employees. I think that's incentive, even if you have to pay European taxes.</p>

<p>It's a fallacy to believe that being poor is necessarily a result of not working hard enough or being unmotivated. Many wealthy people in corporate positions are rewarded by their hand-picked boards whether their company turned a profit or laid off thousands and cut into pensions.</p>

<p>And if you're a government employee, I suppose you could argue that the working people of the United States pay your salary.</p>]]></description>
<author>Hm</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938444</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938444</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:49:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bison</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"That's ridiculous Hm. What incentive would there be for anyone to become successful if they knew that the wealthier they got, their taxation would increase disproportionally without relief."</p>

<p>It's hard to tell of this is a talking point or just plain stupidity.  The incentive to "become successful" (e.g. earn more money) is that you take home a shitload of money at the end of the day.  This is true whether you pay a marginal rate of 35% or 39%.  Add or subtract a few percentage points of tax and you'll make a small difference in take-home pay, but add a million or two to your salary and you make an enormous difference.  Big earners should pay a lot into a system that they take a lot out of.  </p>]]></description>
<author>Bison</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938454</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938454</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:52:00 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hm</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Also, hairball, remember that you're just defending the Bush tax cuts here. Both Clinton and Obama want to roll them back.</p>]]></description>
<author>Hm</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938474</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938474</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:00:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Remember also that the big postwar economic expansion took place during a time of incredibly confiscatory tax rates. The modest increases under discussion today aren't going to hurt anybody.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938545</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938545</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:42:56 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by NapoleonXIV</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I actually noticed that if you stick a bunch of positive sunshine and lollipop palaver into my posts, they sound much more happy and optomistic, as well.  </p>

<p>I'm sure there's a correlation, somewhere.</p>]]></description>
<author>NapoleonXIV</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938659</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938659</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:33:07 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Someone doesn't understand marginal tax rates.  When you get bumped into a higher tax bracket, you aren't paying a higher tax rate overall, you're only paying a higher tax rate on that additional money that you've earned.</p>

<p>It amazes me when middle class people oppose progressive taxation and even embrace such asinine ideas as the "fair" tax.  Progressive taxation <b>helps</b> the middle class.  If you're not obscenely wealthy, you should support it too.</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938680</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/type_o_negative#c938680</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:42:13 -0800</pubDate>
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