Slog - Comments on To War. Again. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again John McCain's reaction to the big New York Times story on his very close relationship with a lobbyist? He's "going to war" with the paper. Because that last war he supported went so well.... Copyright 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:13:19 -0800 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:09:02 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mr. Poe War is their reaction to shame.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944024 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944024 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:18:04 -0800 Comment by Jim Demetre Wait a minute, didn't the NYT endorse McCain?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/opinion/25fri2.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

]]> Jim Demetre http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944026 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944026 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:18:39 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty I particularly liked the story (on Drudge, I think) that he "begged" the NYT not to publish the story. How presidential. . . .

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944027 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944027 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:18:44 -0800 Comment by Original Andrew

So McCain's a vile, shameless hypocrite who whores himself out to the highest bidder; he is a US Senator, isn't he?

]]> Original Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944030 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944030 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:20:42 -0800 Comment by Cale well, smoke em out.

]]> Cale http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944036 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944036 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:22:00 -0800 Comment by Fnarf You do realize that McCain believes the War in Iraq is a huge success now?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944041 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944041 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:23:27 -0800 Comment by Cow Heh. Clinton is boycotting/whatever MSNBC, and now McCain's at "war" with the NYT. Meanwhile, Obama is gently ignoring all media and they're in love with him. (And even the "proud of my country" thing hasn't fazed him...)

I don't think Obama's strategy will work all the way through November, but getting outraged at major papers in February sure isn't helping the other candidates.

]]> Cow http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944042 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944042 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:23:47 -0800 Comment by Original Andrew Fnarf @ 6,


Didn't you hear? The SurgeŽ worked. They said so on the cover of Pravda/TIME magazine last week.

]]> Original Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944046 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944046 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:26:11 -0800 Comment by Gabriel Jim @2: that was my first thought too. He's "going to war" with the paper that endorsed him. The NYT obviously doesn't have a mission to destroy him or they wouldn't have endorsed him.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944048 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944048 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:31:13 -0800 Comment by Gabriel What's strange is the right-wing reaction - they're furious at the NYT for publishing this after McCain has basically secured the nomination, accusing the paper of waiting till now so as to destroy the GOP's chances. If anything, there is the appearance of deliberately waiting in order to help the candidate they endorsed. They've been sitting on this since December but waited till now because of McCain and his camp pleading with the paper to spike it. It doesn't reflect well on the paper, for the reason that they seem to be helping McCain secure the nomination all along.

Apparently TNR will have a piece up today detailing the back-and-forth at the Times on this matter. The word is that TNR basically forced their hand on this.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944057 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944057 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:38:59 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Well, so much for the "Surge." From AP: "With deadly attacks against US targets increasing around Baghdad, anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr raised the possibility Wednesday that he may not renew a six-month cease-fire widely credited for helping slash violence."

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944061 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944061 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:41:32 -0800 Comment by Gabriel Here's TNR's take.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944062 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944062 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:42:03 -0800 Comment by Fnarf It's not strange at all, Gabriel. The right wing HATES McCain; they would have WANTED his campaign destroyed early on rather than now. I assume that the story was fed to the Times by the right wing in the first place.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944064 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944064 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:42:44 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways oh, goody!

I'm either hoping for a Mapp/Lucia type of war or a Bugs/Elmer confrontation. Both would be sublime!

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944080 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944080 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:55:26 -0800 Comment by Peter F How pissed is Mitt Romney this morning as he balances his checkbook, having spent $45 million of his own money and $56 million of donor's money on a campaign he would have won, had this story come out last month, when the NYT was sitting on this story?

]]> Peter F http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944087 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944087 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:05:44 -0800 Comment by DOUG. "The surge is working" sounds like dirty pillow talk.

]]> DOUG. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944088 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944088 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:05:54 -0800 Comment by Gabriel Fnarf, your point is a good one. I understand the dynamic at work there and I shouldn't have used the word "strange" to describe the right-wing reaction. More like disingenuous, but not surprising.

And the story certainly was fed by current and/or former McCain staffers, which has got to scare the hell out of McCain. And whoever fed the story to the NYT got sick of the Times dragging their feet and subsequently fed it to Drudge in December, anxious to get the news out before the primaries.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944089 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944089 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:07:57 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle But .. how will he keep up his Hundred Years War then?

You can't fight two wars at the same time ... it's not like he'd keep us pinned down in Afghanistan and Iraq and Iran ... oh.

Snap.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944095 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944095 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:11:25 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV In case you haven't heard before, I think he thinks he's going to war...

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944408 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/to_war_again#c944408 2008 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:09:02 -0800