Slog - Comments on Those Blue Posters All Over Town This Morning? http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo It's the last gasp of the local Ron Paul campaign.... Copyright 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:37:21 -0800 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:00:39 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by whaleofashrimp actually a girlfriend of mine had this idea, only it was to promote mike gravels campagn

....were both cranks

]]> whaleofashrimp http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938160 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938160 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:43:21 -0800 Comment by DOUG. Even though I'm a Democrat, I considered voting for Ron Paul just to fuck with Luke Esser. Would this be legal?

]]> DOUG. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938170 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938170 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:45:46 -0800 Comment by tsm I called it!

@2 - if you caucused with the Democrats, it seems that it would not be legal. Otherwise, knock yourself out. If this was just about annoying the GOP I'd go for Huckabee, though.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938174 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938174 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:46:52 -0800 Comment by Levislade @2 - Only if you didn't caucus for the D's. When you vote you sign a pledge not to be involved in any other party's nominating process.

]]> Levislade http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938176 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938176 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:47:21 -0800 Comment by SDizzle Trickery! If you already voted in the caucus and then try to vote in the republican primary, they will null both the votes, right?

]]> SDizzle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938180 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938180 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:50:39 -0800 Comment by Required Field I thought the primary influenced the super delegates

]]> Required Field http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938191 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938191 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:56:20 -0800 Comment by Levislade @5 - I don't think they're that organized.

@6 - I'm sure there will be a campaign to have the superdelegates take the primary into account, (as there has been one to have them take the caucus into account) but they are free to choose their own vote, and if the primary turnout is as low as I imagine it will be, they will probably ignore it.

]]> Levislade http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938198 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938198 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:00:39 -0800 Comment by ecce homo Ron Paul is alright...

Too bad people got the narrative that he was a loon.

]]> ecce homo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938242 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938242 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:20:26 -0800 Comment by Suz Darn. I wish this was a REAL organization who wanted to do something about the stupid process the Democrats have for primary and caucuses. Does anyone know of a real organization that will help us change the current system? It sucks!

]]> Suz http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938243 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938243 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:20:29 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle If you participated in the Dem caucus this is illegal - if not, it's your call.

But Ron Paul is a loon. Even if he's more of a conservative than any of the other people running for the GOP nomination for President.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938254 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938254 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:26:12 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Yes, Ecce, I'm not surprised that you think it's a shame that David Duke is the kiss of death.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938285 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938285 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:39:30 -0800 Comment by Bald Face Lie @9 You can check blackboxvoting.org
under the tool kit area for some ideas in starting a group in your area.

Blackbox deals with election fraud but some of the principals can apply to starting your own organization.

Unfortunately most of the slog posts critical of Paul is that of smirking, laughing and playgorund bullying rather than policy or issues.

]]> Bald Face Lie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938286 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938286 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:39:47 -0800 Comment by N in Seattle Gotta say it ... that domain name is the epitome of "truth in advertising".

]]> N in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938295 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938295 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:45:18 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Hee hee!

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938297 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938297 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:47:09 -0800 Comment by stinkbug @10, can you site the source showing that "this is illegal"? I know the Dems don't encourage the practice, but I haven't heard that it's illegal.

]]> stinkbug http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938310 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938310 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:59:54 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle @15 - you signed a legal oath when you participated in the Dem caucus. You swore (legally binding under our election law in this state) an oath that you would not participate in the GOP or other party primary this year.

Nobody made you sign in.

Same goes if you participated in the GOP caucus - you can't vote in the Dem primary either.

I didn't make the rules.

When you sign the ballot for the State Primary, you will see clear language that says you are signing an oath that you did not participate in the other party's caucus.

Basically, you legally bound yourself - twice.

Comprende?

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938352 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938352 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:14:19 -0800 Comment by Inconsistent voter Ummmmm, just a little problem with voting for Ron Paul -- except for the War, he is stark raving nutso.

]]> Inconsistent voter http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938394 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938394 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:27:51 -0800 Comment by Fnarf From the ballot envelope directly above your signature:

"You must mark a party checkbox in order for your Presidential Primary vote to count. You may only select one party.

[box] The Democratic Party Oath:
I declare that I consider myself to be a DEMOCRAT and I will not participate in the nomination process of any other political party for the 2008 Presidential election."

Above that, we find "[...]falsely signing this oath is a felony punishable by a maximum imprisonment of five years, a maximum fine of $10,000, or both."

You signed the same oath when you checked in at the caucuses.

Do keep in mind that Republicans are famous for digging through records and challenging the voting rights of people.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938395 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938395 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:28:14 -0800 Comment by passionateJus @18

If someone votes at the polls how is the county going to know which ballot is theirs?

The ballot does not have any identifying features, correct?

Just curious.

]]> passionateJus http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938461 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938461 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:53:25 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Look, there're legal and there's illegal.

By sending in the Primary ballot you are signing a legal oath - it uses those words - that you have not participated in the other party's caucus.

Are you ethical?

Just because they aren't doesn't mean you shouldn't be.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938525 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938525 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:34:01 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Seriously, have you not been to the polls before? You sign in before you get your ballot. You don't sign the ballot itself. The thing you sign contains the oath, and they keep it.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938539 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938539 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:39:57 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Most of us use these things called absentee ballots, Fnarf.

Regardless, it's illegal. Period.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938598 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938598 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:09:19 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Yes, Will. Do try to keep up. You will see me quoting at length from an absentee ballot envelope in post number 18. Post number 21, which you failed to grasp the sense of, is a reply to post number 19, wherein passionateJus asks how they can tell which ballot you took if you vote at the polls.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938662 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938662 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:33:48 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Great, Fnarf, I'll send you chocolate cookies while you fight it out in court and then serve your jail term.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938885 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938885 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:03:18 -0800 Comment by J.R. @24: Are you offering to serve Fnarf's jail term, Will? Whotta guy!

]]> J.R. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938923 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c938923 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:20:00 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Will, you are the stupidest fucking person on the face of the earth. I've taken shits with better reading comprehension than you.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c939284 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c939284 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:03:19 -0800 Comment by W.D. Charleston I love the cheap shots on Ron Paul's mental stability. Why are there so many morons with opinions in this country? If you don't have something dealing w/ policy or logic, keep your mouth shut. This is prime place for public discourse yet you assholes just write off a man without even considering the ideas he stands for. My god, educate yourselves people.

There are no left or right winged people, there are only hypocrits. Grow up, wake up.

]]> W.D. Charleston http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c941345 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/those_blue_posters_all_over_town_this_mo#c941345 2008 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:00:39 -0800