ECB, ...President McCain!
well about a 17% bump between polling at the time of his endorsement and today's vote...but no, it certainly didn't deliver the state.
If it earned him more delegates in the final count, then yes, it certainly did. This isn't winner-take-all, you seem to forget.
I'm still waiting for you to tell us how exactly you think Clinton can win the Presidency Erica.
Personally - I'm voting for our best chance of WINNING THE PRESIDENCY, and I can't see how Clinton can possibly win enough Electoral College votes to swing the election.
Its fine to vote based on gender or race... but I wish people would get real and vote on who can swing more states and who has the broadest appeal.
Please ECB, enough subtlety. Please let us know who you really support?
Classy, as usual.
It's fine to vote based on broad appeal, but I'd rather see people vote for people who they believe in.
Didn't Erica write an article saying her vagina had nothing to do with her vote?
Please ECB, enough with the subtlety. Why don't you let us know who you really support?
NEWSFLASH:
Ted Kennedy NOT Massachusetts' only voter!!!! Who knew?
and don't forget that "winner" kerry also endorsed him.....
Obama needs more time for name recognition, the Kennedy endorsement did help him do that. The more time the bigger the surge, is my guess.
...and that NOW and Robin Morgan support, wow! it's such a beacon for me, an exemplary example of reason and sound political thinking... yeah, no stale ideologues stuck in the past with those ones, right?
the dem field right now = :
"pot, i'd like to introduce you to kettle, call each other what you may.."
Your gloating will seem pretty fucking hollow when she gets trampled in November and we're subjected to GOP rule for another four years.
Remember, Massachusetts also voted Romney as Gov., so it's no surprise they would choose the more conservative Dem (Hillary, war monger).
Apparently Western Mass. was a big factor. My parents live in Western Mass. They voted for Hilary. That was my only straw poll. I tried to get them to lean toward Obama, but of course, parents never listen to their kids.
wasn't she expected to win massachusetts by a huge margin anyway? apparently the only people that are surprised by this are the clinton spin machine and you.
besides, kennedy's endorsment was/is supposed to help obama woo the latino vote [kennedy's a latino rock star, who knew?]. whether or not it actually helps remains to be seen.
Erica, you really need to quit your job here at the stranger and go work for the Clinton campaign.
#7 - vote with your heart and get used to the idea of a McCain/Huckabee administration.
Or vote for someone who might win this thing.
@16 : Kennedy name...think RFK and Cesar Chavez...California Latinos in particular adore that family
Obama won in Bahstin, for what that's worth...
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/primaries/mass_primary_dem_results_by_town/
Boston means as much to MA as Seattle means to WA. Not much
A Clinton - McCain election will be about experience, which McCain has more of. A Clinton - Romney or Huckabee election will be about values, and the Republicans have been shown to be able to draw people to them on values.
An Obama - Any Republican election will be about change, or hope, or something equally as nebulous, but Obama rules on nebulous.
ECB, tell me how Clinton overcomes any of the challenges that the Republicans pose; please post some persuasive arguments. Until then, I just don't see what all the Clinton love is about, and I see your support only as blind female loyalty.
@18 - Yes, if Hillary is nominated as the Democratic candidate, A republican win is the only conceivable outcome. We could print November 5th's newspaper directly after the convention!
Erica's post was the latest in a string ridiculous posts. That doesn't mean that she's made her decision poorly or in an irrational manner. Not only did you directly imply that she was voting based on an inconsequential factor(gender), you indirectly implied that anyone who votes based on issues is doing the wrong thing.
Why aren't you voting for a White Christian Male?
Hillary stole the Legacy of the Ambassador Kitchen tonight.
What happens when Obama wins Washington despite the two very powerful female senators from this state backing her? Come Saturday it will be the Clinton supporters who will be the ones eating crow.
Lottttttttttta bitter Obama supporters out there. Yes, he will probably win WA. But he will still be behind in the delegate count.
21 -- washington state would be as deep red as idaho, oklahoma, kansas w/out seattle. obama's win in boston has way less of an affect on smaller, much more evenly democratic (establishment) MA. hillary's win is so not surprising.
As far as my exposure here in Mass was to the Obama campaign I don't think they had much of an organization here to really build on after the Kennedy endorsement.
And we all aren't mindless followers of Kennedy and Kerry. With more time he definitely could have won here.
At least he got CT.
@17, AMAZING idea!! Erica, Go work for Clinton, so we don't have to read your sniveling posts that disrupt the intelligent ones on slog!
If nothing else, it's refreshing to hear people argue that you should vote for the black guy because he's so electable.
it's refreshing to hear people argue that you should vote for the black guy because he's so electable.
Yes. And it would be even more refreshing if it were true.
By the only, only 15 of the 32 comments thus far have been for or against ECB's point, the other 17 being ad hominems and diatribes. But ECB is the one that's juvenile?
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