Slog - Comments on Clinton Running Late? http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late Jake Tapper says Hillary Clinton arrived quite late—almost two hours late—at an event in Virginia earlier today and notes: Clinton is due at a rally in Seattle, WA, later tonight, into which this delay will indubitably spill over. Perhaps. Or maybe she'll be able to make up the lost time somehow. But a Boeing employee who's been emailing me about this today is skeptical: Given the times cited in the following news article, I don't see how HRC could possibly be on stage in Seattle before 10 p.m. Pacific at the earliest. Civilian jets can only fly so fast. Now,... Copyright 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:25:58 -0800 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:20:44 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Bellevue Ave is this why should loaned her campaign 5 mil? to pay for being late?

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929228 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929228 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:37:12 -0800 Comment by thehim If she leaves at 6:00 from Dulles, I'm guessing she'll be landing in Seattle between 8:15 and 8:45.

]]> thehim http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929243 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929243 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:43:33 -0800 Comment by DOUG. When I was 16 I went to see Geraldine Ferraro speak. She was two hours late. "Just like a woman," I said. Indeed...

]]> DOUG. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929245 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929245 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:43:37 -0800 Comment by brappy It looks like a flight from Dulles to Boeing Field, a 737-800 from ATA is in the air and scheduled to land at 8.45 pm. Very likely her...

]]> brappy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929279 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929279 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:54:01 -0800 Comment by Cale Shit, maybe I can make it there after all...

]]> Cale http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929318 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929318 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:09:16 -0800 Comment by brappy Oh, and Obama's plane is scheduled to land 10 minutes after hers. Kind of interesting. I wonder if they'll run into each other at BFI?

]]> brappy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929346 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929346 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:13:56 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe I have to see her, so I'll wait hours on end starting at 8. I kind of need this to reaffirm or change my decision..for, uh, aesthetic reasons.

BUCKETS OF THAT!!one!

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929348 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929348 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:14:25 -0800 Comment by scharrera Just like a woman? More like "just like her husband" MR. NOTORIOUSLY Late.

]]> scharrera http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929352 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929352 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:30 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Obama's in town tho. Already swung by my coffee shop and said hi to everyone at the Hispanic-owned diner.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929355 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929355 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:16:02 -0800 Comment by Andy Niable Maybe she's too busy getting her bullshit "my staff will work for free" story straight.

See http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4257358&page=1

More lies--no surprise.

]]> Andy Niable http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929356 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929356 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:16:11 -0800 Comment by The General Is this event outside? Who's brilliant idea was it to have a rally outside in February at night by the water? I'm a fragile flower for crying out loud.

]]> The General http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929400 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929400 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:31:21 -0800 Comment by rlv General, Pier 30 is large building. The rally will be inside.

Your fragile flowerdom will remain delightfully intact.

]]> rlv http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929417 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929417 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:40:12 -0800 Comment by The General Thank GOD. And thank you, rlv.

]]> The General http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929421 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929421 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:44:18 -0800 Comment by unPC @9
really?
where?
when?

]]> unPC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929432 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929432 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:50:04 -0800 Comment by hillfan Not "just like a woman," just like a politician. Been to dozens of political rallies with major candidates; never seen one that started on time. They have never figured out "underpromise and overdeliver."

]]> hillfan http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929444 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929444 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:59:42 -0800 Comment by brappy @ Will in Seattle, I think you're mistaken. According to Obama's campaign website, he was in New Orleans this morning, and then was in Omaha getting an endorsement from the governor of Iowa. According to the Omaha World-Herald his rally ended at 6.57 pm central time (with him in attendance, or 4.57 pm here in Seattle). It takes approximately 3 hours to fly from OMA to Seattle, and only one flight today is scheduled from the Omaha area to the Seattle area, and it left about ten minutes ago.

So, who's wrong? You, or the campaign?

]]> brappy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929447 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929447 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:00:54 -0800 Comment by hairyson She will definitely be late. Almost all politicians are.
I remember waiting hours to see HRC and Bill speak in my college's gym about fifteen years ago and they were at least an hour late - sure, it was probably Bill's fault but bring food and water and something to read. Surprisingly, the topic back then was health care... I wonder if that'll come up tonight.

]]> hairyson http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929498 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929498 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:19:51 -0800 Comment by superyeadon any parking tips for this event? as in, where should I park?

]]> superyeadon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929540 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929540 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:46:25 -0800 Comment by Just sayin' Brappy, ...Iowa or Nebraska?

]]> Just sayin' http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929545 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929545 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:50:25 -0800 Comment by Fnarf In Will's fantasy world, he and Brother Obama hang out and chill all the time, man. Down at the coffee shop, man. Just, you know, rapping, man.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929549 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929549 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:53:51 -0800 Comment by brappy @19, Omaha, Nebraska is on the border with Iowa and the Governor of Iowa was at the rally in Nebraska today, according to the link I posted.

]]> brappy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929576 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929576 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:28:48 -0800 Comment by Andy Niable Anyone remember the press's term "Clinton Standard Time" referring to Bill's lateness? (I say this not as a criticism, only a reminder.)

]]> Andy Niable http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929577 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929577 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:28:55 -0800 Comment by Just sayin' Okay, Brappy. My bad. ...Wonder why the Gov of Iowa would wait until now to endorse? Trying to influence Nebraskans? Odd. Oh well...

]]> Just sayin' http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929580 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929580 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:35:34 -0800 Comment by brad Fnarf... you win.

]]> brad http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929604 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929604 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:56:23 -0800 Comment by benjr Hillary still hasn't shown. Packed to capacity, doors closed with dozens or maybe hundreds waiting in the cold. Standing in the overflow room, waiting for a flicker from the 4 plasmas, can't see into the main room. Great crowd.

]]> benjr http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929651 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929651 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:53:54 -0800 Comment by Brendan Hillary pissed off a lot of potential caucusers tonight. The pier rally is being held indoors in a building way to small for the event. Though she accepted RSVPs on her website, they can't honor those RSVPs at the door. The room was filled and the doors closed before Hillary's plane was even scheduled to touch down in Seattle. If that's the best she and her organization can do, I'll caucus for Obama -- or at least withhold judgment until we see what Obama pulls off tomorrow.

]]> Brendan http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929670 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929670 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:16:11 -0800 Comment by Amy If you care about the Iraq War, think before you vote

For 3 years, Sen. Clinton had taken the same position on Iraq as Bush.

She said the same words as Bush:
Sen. Clinton: "Every nation has to be either with us or against us"
Hear her say this on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbYGYiGjpUs

Sen. Clinton did not read the National Intelligence Report (NIE) which raised doubts about WMD in Iraq. Sen. Bob Graham even urged her and other senators to read the NIE before casting their vote on Iraq War but to no avail.

Sen. Clinton said that "intelligence reports clearly showed Iraq had WMD" even though she did not bother to read the NIE. (Senate proceedings Oct 12, 2002)

Sen. Clinton also said "Saddam had links to Al Qaeda" on the senate floor. This was a Bush talking point and no credible intelligence indicated so. Even several senators who voted for Iraq did not believe any such Al Qaeda link existed. (Senate proceedings Oct 12, 2002)

Sen. Clinton has not once admitted that her war vote was a mistake. How can she confront the Republicans saying that war was a mistake?

In Nov 2003, Sen. Clinton called for a ''tough-minded, muscular foreign and defense policy.'' She urged ''patience'' and worried about the political will ''to stay the course.'' She also said her vote for war was the right vote.

In Feb 2005, Sen. Clinton said that much of Iraq was ''functioning quite well" echoing Bush once again.

In 2005, Sen. Clinton appeared on "Meet the Press" saying it ''would be a mistake'' to call for the immediate withdrawal of troops or set a timetable.

Only after the majority of public opinion turned against the war, and she started thinking about her presidential run, Sen. Clinton changed her position.

Are you sure, she would not follow a "tough-minded" foreign policy similar to Bush's once she is elected. She already voted to label Iran's National Guard as terrorists giving Bush yet another pass.

]]> Amy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929671 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929671 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:16:29 -0800 Comment by stinkbug from a girl at the event:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20080207/450hillary_079mu_note.jpg

]]> stinkbug http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929675 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929675 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:21:05 -0800 Comment by Clint Its interesting how the story has suddenly become, "Hillary has money problems" and even more interesting to see how folks like Anne Coulter and Rush Limbaugh are out there raising money for her because they say they'd rather fight her.

I wouldn't be a bit suprised if it was all orchastrated by Bill Clinton and Rupert Murdoch in some smoky room, but when it is all said and done, Hillary is so good at getting money that she can even get it from people who hate her. Well played Clintons.

]]> Clint http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929697 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929697 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:13:46 -0800 Comment by Andy Niable @29--you might be right.

see http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4257358&page=1

more lies? no surprise.

]]> Andy Niable http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929700 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929700 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:17:20 -0800 Comment by Sargon Bighorn I just got home from the Clinton rally (I did my part for my carbon foot print and walked, everyone else did their part and drove). FIRST: A mob is VERY scary. I don't like them, too much screaming and not enough listening. SECOND: She was late and made no apology, sort of like GWB. THIRD: Lots and Lots of promises, short on how to build consensus. FOURTH: The Snohomish County Executive is one HOT man.

]]> Sargon Bighorn http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929738 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929738 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:45:28 -0800 Comment by stinkbug So what's up with Gregoire? She only has about 36 hours left. Is she perhaps in camp Obama?

]]> stinkbug http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929744 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929744 2008 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:54:57 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Good one, Fnarf.

See you at the President's speech tomorrow.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929778 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929778 2008 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:18:34 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle (not that I was there - just what the cafe owner said)

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929779 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/running_late#c929779 2008 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:20:44 -0800