Slog - Comments on Charles Fucking Barkley http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147 As Towleroad reports, Christians are pissed. (Thank you, Slog tipper Skweetis.)... Copyright 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:27:05 -0800 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:08:45 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by cochise. te quiero mucho!

]]> cochise. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942253 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942253 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:32:32 -0800 Comment by Carollani Snaps to CB!

]]> Carollani http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942254 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942254 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:02 -0800 Comment by Levislade Awesome.

]]> Levislade http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942255 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942255 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:44 -0800 Comment by Madashell Yesssssss Chuckles! Will watch what happens in 2014. Wonder if the bible-thumpers down there in AL will forget what he just said...

]]> Madashell http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942257 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942257 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:34:51 -0800 Comment by J.R. Charles Barkely rules. There's never been any question about it, and this just confirms the fact in a big way.

]]> J.R. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942258 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942258 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:34:56 -0800 Comment by COMTE Awwwww, so sad. Poor widdle Quistians got whipped a new one by da big bad black basketbaw pwayew.

]]> COMTE http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942259 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942259 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:35:32 -0800 Comment by jake why was barkley EVER a republican? i don't think he's the most thoughtful political figure i've ever seen.

]]> jake http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942261 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942261 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:35:52 -0800 Comment by Tim Right on Charles!

]]> Tim http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942263 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942263 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:37:53 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Well he has plenty of time to learn how to speak.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942266 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942266 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:39:57 -0800 Comment by Lou Christians to everyone else: Live as we say or you're going to hell. We're going to take over a political party and push our agenda.

Everyone else: You guys are hypocrites.

Christians: Help! We're being oppressed!

]]> Lou http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942269 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942269 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:43:43 -0800 Comment by skweetis @9 - He's a sports commentator for the NBA and is usually a pretty smooth talker. I think it's the weird satellite hookup thing that threw him off. But who gives a shit? "They can't do anything to me. I don't work for them." Badass.

]]> skweetis http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942274 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942274 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:45:41 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave I LOVE CHARLES BARKLEY!

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942279 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942279 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:49:04 -0800 Comment by TheMisanthrope I'm in love with Dr. Cass' taking it to the next level.

1st level: We don't like you and your kind, because the Bible tells me so.

2nd level: Your group is bigoted because you don't like this group.

3rd level: Well you're a bigot for saying we're a bigot because we don't like these people.

Next level?: You're an even bigger bigot for saying I'm a bigot for saying you're a bigot because you don't like this group of people. I dunno.

]]> TheMisanthrope http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942281 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942281 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:50:23 -0800 Comment by kebabs @7
He had that discussion with his mom. His mom said, "Charles, don't be a Republican. They are all rich people." Charles replied, "Momma, I AM rich people." I guess what changed his mind was the outright shamefulness of the Katrina situation, as well as the neo-con movement.

Sir Chuck has always been my favorite basketball player, and this just confirms how much awesome he is.

]]> kebabs http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942299 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942299 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:59:31 -0800 Comment by wiseblood Good to see Sir Charles laying it on the line. Can't wait for 2014!

]]> wiseblood http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942318 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942318 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:04:08 -0800 Comment by Greg The problem is that logical arguments and appeals to the nature of their own religion don't really work on these people. If they did, the liberal Christians would have stamped this shit out long ago.

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942322 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942322 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:04:49 -0800 Comment by Joselito Battle of the Chucks: Barkley > Mudede.

]]> Joselito http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942364 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942364 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:12:52 -0800 Comment by Sargon Bighorn Holy sweet GHEEEZUZ Mother of God and Kali That man is great. He speaks poorly, looks odd, lives in a third world country called Alabammy, and stands up to the Religious extremists with more guts than those good looking well spoken Hollywood types with perfect teeth. I'm voting for him.

]]> Sargon Bighorn http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942365 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942365 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:13:09 -0800 Comment by Fnarf He doesn't speak poorly; he's just got a different accent than you. This appearance was extremely focused and eloquent; not a "um" or an "er" in there. He laid it out exactly the way it is. That's the whole POINT of speech.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942391 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942391 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:17:55 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave Sargon, you couldnt handle becoming a RV in bama. although this would give you ample opportunity to bash straight men for being, well, straight men.

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942392 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942392 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:17:55 -0800 Comment by als Sir Charles speaks just fine. I wouldn't change a thing about him.

Go 2014.

]]> als http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942393 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942393 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:18:30 -0800 Comment by Hernandez Thing is, Christians feel 100% that their definition of morality is the only one that counts. Period. So whenever someone calls them out for bigotry, they just don't get it, because how could espousing "the truth" lead to bigotry? But of course, if you're the one questioning their version of "the truth" then you're the bigot.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942395 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942395 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:18:53 -0800 Comment by Heather It is legitimate to be opposed to any set of ideas including Christianity. Does organized religion hold some special place that says nobody can oppose it? They cannot force us to accept the notion of "sacred" or "holy"
I am opposed to Christianity and my right to say so is equal to those who profess Christianity. Barkley is a breath of fresh air. I think what freaks some Christians out is that they know he speaks for millions of other Americans who want Christians to keep their noses out of our private lives.

]]> Heather http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942426 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942426 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:29:22 -0800 Comment by SeMe Sir Charles!!!

Where are all the sports haters now?

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942429 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942429 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:34:09 -0800 Comment by Mike of Renton Thanks David, that made my day.

]]> Mike of Renton http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942448 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942448 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:40:05 -0800 Comment by Andy Niable Religion Poisons Everything.

]]> Andy Niable http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942449 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942449 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:40:36 -0800 Comment by left coast I think Wolf peed a little in his pants there. I cannot believe that we need a former basketball player to start speaking the truth. It really just points out that the media is more concerned about not upsetting anyone than it is about getting the truth out. I admire Barkley for speaking the truth, but it is insane that this country has to be so near the edge before people start acting out. And I cannot believe the fear in Wolf's eyes that someone is on TV speaking the truth without fear of the Catholic League. The Catholic League is one f'ing guy. The media is self-censoring for fear of a backlash from a handful of extremists.

]]> left coast http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942450 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942450 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:41:02 -0800 Comment by Jerry If he ends up apologizing for this, it will break my heart.

]]> Jerry http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942456 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942456 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:43:34 -0800 Comment by NaFun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospDD4fXeYE

This is the video that made me fall in love with Charles Barkley when I was in 7th grade. He is one of my alltime fave basketball players.

]]> NaFun http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942465 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942465 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:47:23 -0800 Comment by Mike in MO My favorite line: "They can't do anything to me. I don't work for them."

Also, can you think of anything more frightening to white people than a big smart black guy?

]]> Mike in MO http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942473 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942473 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:48:00 -0800 Comment by SeMe Barkley is not apologizing, shit, he played for Philly!

@ 18

Charles lives in Arizona not Bama.

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942474 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942474 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:48:01 -0800 Comment by DOUG. That's cool of Chuck, but I'm still pissed about the officiating in 1993 Sonics/Suns Game 7.

]]> DOUG. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942498 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942498 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:50:55 -0800 Comment by Reverse Polarity I think it's hilarious how Wolf Blitzer seems completely stunned that those words were falling out of Charles Barkley's mouth.

"They can't do anything to me. I don't work for them."

Awesome. Go Governor Barkley!

]]> Reverse Polarity http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942505 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942505 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:51:33 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave @30, I didnt think obama was that big.

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942506 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942506 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:51:58 -0800 Comment by SeMe To be real, my boy Charles has as much chance of winning the governor's mansion in Bama as Kucinich has of being the next prez. But who cares? im sending him a check!

Time to go back to the time when athletes stood up for real issues of equality!

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942509 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942509 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:56:29 -0800 Comment by sam Planning my move to Alabama in 2014 just so I can vote for him.

]]> sam http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942515 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942515 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:57:57 -0800 Comment by Kate I think Blitzer was pointing out that some Christian bigots are sincere.

]]> Kate http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942517 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942517 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:59:51 -0800 Comment by superyeadon wolf is such a hoser.

]]> superyeadon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942525 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942525 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:04:07 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV I'm not gonna argue with him.

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942546 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942546 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:13:43 -0800 Comment by Bill LaBorde From a crass, political point of view, Barkley is showing that he has good instincts. Today, it may seem kind of crazy for someone who wants to be governor of Alabama to be trumpeting his support for the right of gay marriage. But, by 2014, everyone will be talking about how courageous and ahead of the curve he was.

As many have noted, gay marriage has barely gotten a blip of attention from the media or the voters in 2008. The country has moved on since 2004. By 2014, today's opponents of gay marriage - even in Alabama- will have lost their fight and be seen by a majority of voters as the bigots they are.

Jimmy Carter was able to go onto be president because as a legislator and governor of Georgia he went against the grain to support civil rights for blacks in the mid-to-late 60s. Carter became a hero while Lester Maddox, quite appropriately, came to be seen as evil. Alabama may not have legalized gay marriage by 2014, but several states will have by then and it won't seem like such a radical idea, even in Alabama. Barkley will benefit from his statements today in the same way that Carter benefitted from his early public positions while running for governor of Georgia.

]]> Bill LaBorde http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942584 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942584 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:32:07 -0800 Comment by Dixie Dumplin Cupcake Now there are 3,087 things I love about Charles Barkley. He's who got me into hoops; it's the only sport I like. When he was traded to Phoenix in 92-93 the best quote was from a Philly reporter who said, "He can't stop talking and we can't stop printing what he says." I've often thought Gnarls Barkley named themselves after watching him take that roundhouse right at Laimbeer and going, "DUDE! He's not Charles - he's Gnarls Barkley!" The clip of him having a running backward contest with Dick Bavetta (youtube) is a classic too.

]]> Dixie Dumplin Cupcake http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942618 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942618 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:49:28 -0800 Comment by Jason Josephes Charles Barkley may be the greatest athlete of all time. Not for his on the court skills (which were awesome) but things he did in the media that pissed everyone off. Remember this oldie from 1993?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRYeqGZRo9Q

Right on then, right on now.

]]> Jason Josephes http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942635 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942635 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:04:09 -0800 Comment by Jim Demetre It is so refreshing to see a professional athlete speak out like this. Tiger Woods is so afraid of losing endorsement money he can't even say they should let women play golf at Augusta.

]]> Jim Demetre http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942636 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942636 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:04:25 -0800 Comment by mike watt I thought working men were pissed.

]]> mike watt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942660 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942660 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:10:37 -0800 Comment by darek This is what is written on the Christian Anti-Defamation Colition wesbite in regards to the interview:

"Former NBA great Charles Barkley made his remarks in an interview on CNN with Wolf Blitzer that was posted on the Drudge Report. When Blitzer asked Barkley to clarify his remarks, Barkley made it clear that he did not misspeak. According to Barkley anyone who judges another person’s action is wrong."

Anyone who judges another person's action is wrong - sweet lord it's such a foreign concept to them! And yet so simple.

]]> darek http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942677 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942677 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:17:05 -0800 Comment by MichaelPgh What. He. Said.

confidential to Wolf Blitzer: SHUT THE FUCK UP.

]]> MichaelPgh http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942839 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c942839 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:06:54 -0800 Comment by Lloyd Clydesdale Thanks for standing up, Charles.

]]> Lloyd Clydesdale http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943001 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943001 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:52:56 -0800 Comment by UnoriginalAndrew @ 45 - everyone judges other people's actions.

]]> UnoriginalAndrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943692 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943692 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:59:36 -0800 Comment by UnoriginalAndrew @ 45 - everyone judges other people's actions.

]]> UnoriginalAndrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943696 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943696 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:00:36 -0800 Comment by Wurm Nice to see a public figure say something like that, but he does sound like he has an IQ of 60 or so.

funny that the site that Dan linked to has only pro-CB comments on it, I guess those christians arent that pissed :P

]]> Wurm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943728 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943728 Religion Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:34:11 -0800 Comment by Mike You go girl.

]]> Mike http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943874 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/post_147#c943874 Religion Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:08:45 -0800