Slog - Comments on Political "Plagiarism." It's Everywehere! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere Did Bill Clinton steal a line for his inaugural address in 1993? From a pastor at a Brooklyn church!? Is lifting lines from a clergyman worse than lifting them from Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick? This is getting a little silly. But since we're on the subject: Is it possible to watch this 1990s video and not think that Barack Obama, or his campaign, studied it very closely?... Copyright 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:55:03 -0800 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:29:03 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Dominic Holden You copied that headline...

]]> Dominic Holden http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942213 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942213 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:57:19 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe When liberals fight liberals, we all lose.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942215 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942215 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:57:47 -0800 Comment by doink Maybe the Hilary people are on to something!

their new campaign push should be "Obama will fuck it all up just like Bill did"

]]> doink http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942216 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942216 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:57:59 -0800 Comment by Bald Face Lie Is it "plagiarism" or the same empty rhetoric we have been spoon fed for the past oh ____ years.

"Change" will come once we start doing more than casting an electronic vote or posting on Slog.

]]> Bald Face Lie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942219 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942219 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:01:04 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave you are boring seattle

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942220 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942220 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:02:54 -0800 Comment by elenchos @4

Vote Nader 2008!

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942227 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942227 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:06:34 -0800 Comment by kerri harrop How many times we gonna hear from detractors that someone did it, said it, or gesticulated it before Obama did?

There are only so many formulas available. It's not like Nirvana made up Verse, Chorus, Verse.

]]> kerri harrop http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942228 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942228 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:07:41 -0800 Comment by Ziggity @4: Like hanging out on highway overpasses with banners?

]]> Ziggity http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942229 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942229 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:07:43 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave the best part about 9/11 truthers; even if they are right, what are they gonna do about it? nothing, and like it.

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942230 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942230 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:08:00 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave exactly ziggity, they are going to post 9/11 truth signs all over telling me that my government lies to me. shit, I know the government is a big lying pile of shit and we're nothing but kernels of corn in it.

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942234 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942234 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:10:46 -0800 Comment by Levislade @7 - But they did make up the whole quiet/loud/quiet thing, right?

]]> Levislade http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942250 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942250 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:25:44 -0800 Comment by unPC What Obama did wasn't plagiarism because Patrick consented.

]]> unPC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942251 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942251 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:27:59 -0800 Comment by JasonC Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it only plagarism if you don't have permission?!?!

]]> JasonC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942267 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942267 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:41:54 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle God, that was boring.

Don't you guys have something better to do, like point out that Clinton won in some county in our state among people who grow grass for a living?

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942283 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942283 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:51:13 -0800 Comment by notonthehill @3

How did Bill "fuck it up"? Last I checked he was the only president in the last 20yrs who was able to balance the budget and have a budget surplus.

]]> notonthehill http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942340 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942340 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:07:54 -0800 Comment by Greg I am trying so hard to care about this. Doesn't everybody know that all political speeches are basically plagiarized from Tacitus, anyway?

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942366 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942366 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:13:21 -0800 Comment by Greg Oops, I meant Cicero. Tacitus only wrote one book on oratory.

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942402 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942402 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:19:56 -0800 Comment by Greg And he probably plagiarized it from Cicero in the first place.

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942407 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942407 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:20:40 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave @15, you can thank newt for busting his balls to do it.

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942427 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942427 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:29:38 -0800 Comment by Andy Niable Yes, yes, let's get all caught up in the minutiae while the NeoCons and ReligioRight plot their next moves. There are so few differences between the two Democratic front-runners, this is what the "primary" campaign is devolving to.

Can we please get back to the issues and start fighting McCain? I think supporters of Obama AND Clinton would rather hear about how each candidate plans to beat Grampa Munster instead of this silly circular firing squad of nerf-darts.

]]> Andy Niable http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942457 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942457 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:44:16 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Good call, Andy.

I think the problem is the pundit class, the MSM media types like the Strangerites, are just in shock they can't scare us into voting for Clinton and McCain.

News flash: We have brains. We have souls. They're ours to use. Not yours.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942507 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942507 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:52:53 -0800 Comment by Andy Niable Agreed, Will. A vacuum needs filling, and four or five cable news channels, each with twenty-four hours to fill daily, HAVE to find stories and in the absence of something new, stir shit up or repeat and dissect the Current Kerfuffle.

But is the Stranger really into MSM? :)

]]> Andy Niable http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942511 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942511 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:56:34 -0800 Comment by Greg @22: Not sure what the first M is for, but otherwise yeah, the Stranger is totally into SM.

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942522 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942522 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:01:30 -0800 Comment by Suz It's all so fucking tiresome. I didn't care that much before, but now I hope the Clintons lose big! Sure I liked the economy during Bill's reign but was terribly embarrased by how he abused his office with Monica. Yes, Hillary is so much more experienced by having a spouse who cheated on her... does that make her ready for day one as president?! I suppose she'll know just what to do when her "first husband" has free reign and will cheat again! God, I'm so sick of this! We should be beating up on McCain, not fellow democrats.

]]> Suz http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942569 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942569 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:24:41 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle @22 - well, they dabble with it.

Now, a good SLOG would have cool articles on the Moon, maybe a Lunar Landing thing, tie in pics from the underwater plants and animals found near Antartica, and riff on that.

But, all reporters got into it because they want to become pundits. It's their goal. Show me a reporter and I'll show you a pundit in larval stage.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942579 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/political_plagiarism_its_everywehere#c942579 2008 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:29:03 -0800