Yeah, THAT is going to make me vote for Hillary. I thought Bob Kerry was dead??

Oh my god, the Keeper from TALOS IV has grown hair and is supporting Hillary! It's all an illusion! Illusion!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a6/Talosian_keeper.jpg/200px-Talosian_keeper.jpg

@2 +1! He's talking like he has a gun lodged against his back.

Terrible ad. She'll never let you down? Wait until she does!

She's really pushing for the farmer vote.

After buying time on the Hallmark Channel, I think it's pretty clear that Hillary isn't focused on the youth vote like Obama.

EVERY politician will let you down. It's just a question of how and how badly.

Why Bob Kerry and not Maria Cantwell? Voters are gonna go "Bob who?"

Bob Kerrey? Bob "Barack Hussein Obama" Kerrey? I don't have any sound here, so can someone tell me, does Bob Kerrey refer to Barack Hussein Obama by name in this commercial?

Also, does anyone happen to know Bob Sleazeball Kerrey's own middle name?

@8--those stupid enough not to know probably think its JOHN Kerry and will be further confused ("didn't he endorse Obama?") and... well not be smart enough to find their caucus location.

@10,

Well, you have to be pretty damn smart to figure it out. The 43rd Ds website is listing two different locations for my caucus. One is more than a mile away from my apartment.

What makes me so mad about Hillary Clinton is that I have to learn so much nitpicky detailed recent history in order to understand what these people who like her keep saying. Even to know whether the people who like her matter at all!

Complexity got me down. I'm gonna be a mess at the caucus. I'll probably just gravitate toward the group with the tautest skin.

keshmeshi, I assume you must be in either 43-1354 or 43-3262. As explained on the 43rd District Dems website, those precincts will be caucusing at B.F. Day Elementary, 3921 Linden Ave N. I am absolutely, completely, totally certain about this information.

Why so sure? Because the PCO for one of those precincts will be one of the site coordinators at B.F. Day. And because I (the other B.F. Day site coordinator) have the precinct envelope for the other precinct sitting at my house, waiting to be taken there on Saturday.

Oops, she forgot to change her costume between the Health Care shot to Reading to the Kids shot :(

(17sec-20sec)

non, it could have been a child care center for single mother nurses at the hospital. or shot on the same day. who knows?

i still think bob kerrey is most likely an alien overlord or a subsidy craving douchebag.

@13,

My precinct's on Capitol Hill.

keshmeshi, seattle central?

tomasyalba - unlike what you and many other Obama supporters seem to think, Hillary Clinton's supporters do matter, just as Ron Paul's supporters do matter, John McCain's supporters do matter, etc. We all matter. I am shocked with what reckless abandon Obama supporters seem to think that only their views of the world matter these days. In fact, for a candidate who claims to desire "unity", his supporters sure enjoy mocking anyone whose own rationality leads them to different conclusions as to which candidate will be the best President. I guess for those Obama supporters, their idea of unity is stamping out all dissent. That doesn't sound like a very well-functioning democracy. Of course, when you are mobilized by the charisma of one leader, then whose to say that you really think democracy is all that important, after all.

Annie @18, I love that you take me for an Obama supporter! I may become one at tomorrow's revival meeting.

Hmmm, then I'm not sure about your issue, keshmeshi. I haven't been at the absolute center of the caucus-site workings in the 43rd. But I do know that they recently added something like seven additional caucus sites because of the expected crush of attendees. So what probably happened is that your precinct was transferred into one of the new sites.

It's my understanding that the spreadsheet on the 43rd Dems caucus page is really, truly final. It does reflect the changes I described.

Annie--as an Obama supporter, and a loyal Democrat, I've never mocked a Clinton supporter unless they said something stupid and worthy of mockery. But I don't "mock" Hillary Clinton, Democratic Candidate for President.

I mock the bad ad, or the ridiculous pundit, or the mistake itself Hillary might have made, but I'm going to vote for her (sad as I would be) if she's the nominee. I don't have candidate-only blinders on. I support Obama not because I'm uncritically drunk on his charisma or unquestioningly accept everything he's done (hello, Donnie McClurkin?) but because I believe he can win and Hillary can't. If he doesn't get the nomination, I'll work just as hard to defeat the Republicans, but I don't be as inspired, nor will I expect the rest of the country to be as inspired by her administration.

@20,

The spreadsheet's the ultimate word? Cool, thanks.

I don't mind traveling a mile to a caucus site. I was just concerned that I'd show up there and find out I have to go to the other site (a half a block from my apartment), which would figure given my luck.

tomasyalba - I am sorry I assumed. I only thought that you were because you made a statement in your post that Hillary's supporters don't matter (or at least that was the way that I read it).

Andy - I appreciate your post. I didn't mean to imply that all Obama supporters were like that. I don't think so. I think that rational people in a democracy can come to different conclusions, and I have plenty of friends who are Obama supporters who just have come to different conclusions than I. I was just referring to some Obama supporters who I have heard decry anyone who supports Hillary and talk about them in rather mocking tones. I am sure there are Hillary supporters that do the same thing as well, but they just don't seem as vocal. My point is this, for voters who are just wrapped up in the charisma of their candidates as their reason for support, they seem fairly intolerant of other people who are similarly committed to making America better but support a different candidate.

Agreed, Annie. I am sometimes as embarassed by the hateful-anti-Hillary stuff coming from fellow and sister Obamaniacs as I am embarassed reading some of ECB's "OH MY GOD" posts.

We live in a monotheistic society that trains us to polarize us into Us/Them dichotomies. This expresses itself WITHIN a party with two battling candidates just as it does against an opposing party. It would be nice it we could transcend it and have a logical dialog about which Democratic Candidate would make a better Candidate, or a better President. We can just keep trying.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Andy - I absolutely agree with everything that you just said. That is exactly the problem with the way we are trained to think about politics, people from other countries, etc. that we are right and everyone else is wrong.

Thanks for your thoughts. I only wish that every political dialogue could be more like this.