Comments on MSNBC Host Suspended for Calling Clinton a "Pimp"
Technically, wouldn't she be "Hoed"?
Yeah, what would that make Mitt's sons? I don't even want to know.
Stupid comment, but hardly worth firing, IMO.
I almost emailed this to you a few hours ago, but then figured you had probably raked enough muck for one day already. Oh well. What you didn't mention is that Hilly had an absolute conniption fit over this. As I probably would if someone said that about my daughter.
it would be nice if the mainstream media (and the stranger) spent more time looking at the real issues at hand. this is immaterial, we have greater concerns to address.
I had no idea sexism was so deeply ingrained into our culture until seeing the reactions to Clinton's campaign. We have a long way to go dealing with our fucked up attitudes to race, but we're way behind on our attitudes to gender.
Imagine if someone accused Obama of pimping out Michelle.
"Where people who have nothing to say are given too much time to speak ... today, only on MSNBC/Foxnews/CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS/and everywhere else on the dial."
I'm no fan of HRC, but this was horrible. Totally uncalled for and wrong.
Wait, so we can pimp "rides", but not Chelsea Clinton? What kinda country is this?
Read about how that Mrs. BILL Clinton and her tawdry campaign staff trashed a building and stiffed the landlord in New Hampshire.
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That host is gay. Too bad he's so ignorant and offensive. Good riddance (from someone who doesn't like of any of the candidates).
Oh, you posted about his suspension. Whoops. I thought you were just noting the comment.
pimping ain't easy.
unless it is.
i believe chelsea has a $100k+ "consulting" job that she got straight out of undergrad. she should be working at instead of making phone calls for her moms.
Just when I thought there would be no accountability for the sexist rhetoric that people throw at Hillary (and now Chelsea) without even thinking, finally there's a consequence. Just one, from what I can see, but it's a breath of fucking fresh air after noticing the shit she has to deal with.
She's 27 for fuck's sake. If she were still a 12-year-old girl, then, sure, kids shouldn't be dragged into crap like this. If memory serves, the Clintons did a damn good job keeping her out of the fray in '92. Unfortunately, that didn't keep that turd Rush Limbaugh from comparing her to a dog.
yeah, now the newsdrones at MSGOP will hate on the Dem candidates even more.
it's totally inappropriate, but it doesn't seem like such a big deal to warrant firing. still, i'm kind of shocked by the accepted sexism that has blatantly aired during this campaign. it's been too much and over the top. so, i am kind of glad that there is finally a response to it. i would rather have it directed toward some of the worse offenders... but i'll take it.
That's a pretty fucking dumb thing to say. By his logic, where do Mitt Romney's five rent-boy sons fit in?
Well, not in Iraq, Greg, not in Iraq.
zing!
@19 - agreed. I tried to figure out whether anything happened to those "Iron my Shirt" radio DJs, and haven't had any luck. That one was by far worse, in my book. This was less sexist to me than it was just plain offensive (implying HRC is inappropriately using her daughter in the campaign).
@19, well he wasn't fired, he was suspended. I think a few week suspension (which is probably all it will be) is pretty justified.
Oh, and I suppose "nappy-headed hoes" wasn't offensive enough to warrant firing either.
Shuster is an normally an intelligent reporter so I'm shocked at the utterance - he comes across as a decent guy.
There's way too much election coverage with broadcasters resulting to overkill to fill up the time. I can only imagine Shuster got carried away; hope the suspension is temporary - I've heard way worse on Faux Noise.
This sounds like an off-the-cuff comment that someone made without thinking of the usual gender issues involved in "pimping." I mean seriously, I'm a feminist female and the first thing I think about with this term is pimpin' one's ride or one's crib or whatever.
That said, it IS lame that anyone would think Chelsea was being brought in inappropriately and yet the Romney droids are just fine. (Maybe it does have to do with the fact that other than the Romneys, we're not seeing any other candidates' kids out there a-stumping?)
i think it was stupid and crass of the guy to say it, and yes, people would have howled if it had been said about obama, but erica, unless someone else writes your headlines as they do in the msm, would you mind working a little harder on accuracy?
he asked if she were being "pimped out" - he didn't "call her a pimp".
we get enough sensationalized heads from the local dailies and talking heads.
That host is gay. Too bad he's so ignorant and offensive.
the irony of that statement--the juxtaposition!--slays me.
Addendum: I keep finding myself making these "I'm a feminist, but..." comments just due to the context of some of these posts and events that I find over the top.
Just to balance things out: Something that really bugs me is that in pop culture narratives, especially with big studio movies, you will NEVER find a female character whose femininity isn't a major part of what her character is about. Whether she's a doctor or a hooker or an FBI agent or whatever, it's always about the fact that she's a woman. She's never just a doctor or an FBI agent or a hooker who happens to be a woman at the same time.
Granted that's a bit more difficult to manage with the last category.
Still, this consistently pisses me off. A minority actor is more likely to be cast into a role that might have been envisioned for a white man. A woman just happening to be cast? Nuh uh. She'll get a role that's, yknow. A role For a Woman.
Sorry for the offtopicness.
@24. i didn't say he was fired.
@28. to ask if someone is being pimped out implies someone is the pimp.
29, I think they actually meant gay. You know, a homo.
Now, Chelsea... she's getting pretty hot these days, no?
@27 - I see Obama's kids all the time (obviously, they're not stumping and making campaign calls, though). He brings them up in speeches alot (a funny joke in his Super Tuesday speech was that his daughter was up in the hotel room because, when asked whether she wanted to be on stage, she said "you know that's not my thing, dad").
I don't think any of the candidates is "using" their kids inappropriately (i.e., pimping), and it's totally ridiculous to imply that a 27-year-old making calls for her mother is somehow inappropriate.
Shuster loves his boss Chriss Matthews who hates Hillary. You can see it every day on MSNBC.
Erica, why are you sarcastic about this? The person who said it was punished. I can see maybe your usual bitterness if they'd gotten away with it, but they didn't. You won. Don't you know what victory smells like?
When you win, act like a winner. Don't gloat, but you know, say "yeah!" or "right on!" or something.
@32 chelsea looks great with her hair straightened... if only her man would do the same.
Wow, HRC and her crew continue to look worse and worse. Anyone offended by the question this guy asked (and you should actually listen to it in context) make me laugh. Come the fuck on, people. That is just common contemporary vernacular in the context he was using it, far removed from its literal meaning. If John Stewart says it, nothing happens.
I love the irony, HRC will debate on FOX, of course, but not on MSNBC after this horrible, unforgiveable offense, GASP!
give me a fucking break.
Eep! A word!
@35: Perhaps Erica is seeing this for what it is: MSNBC scapegoating Schuster by overreacting to his comment because they don't want to fire Chris Matthews.
I agree that Schuster was using *pimp* in the vernacular, but he's a major reporter on a major network national broadcast...you don't EVER use vernacular in that setting.
He deserves a solid suspension.
But step back and hear what he was saying...
For years, Chelsea has been completely off limits and rightfully so. She was a child who happened to have famous parents and she should have been shielded.
But she is an adult now. She is overtly campaigning. She outted herself by participating at the level she is.
The Clintons are insisting she will not speak to the press, the press will not bug her, etc. as if the same rules apply when she was a child.
They don't. If you go out on the campaign trail and OVERTLY campaign on your own without your parents, you are fair game.
Romney's kids are not being shielded by their Dad...they are fair game and have accepted that.
Can't have it all ways Clintons.
That's the context Schuster was using. I agree with him in principle.
He still deserves a solid suspension for his choice of words.
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