Slog - Comments on More Than This? http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1 In the area of the 80s, there is nothing more than this: Let's agree on that.... Copyright 2008 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:59:13 -0800 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:53:30 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Timothy Charles...nice Roxy Music reference. :-)

But, what hinges on our agreement on such issues? Do you really think you're going to unlock the mystery to universal aesthetic appreciation?

Will never happen. Give it up already. :-)

]]> Timothy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924601 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924601 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:06:57 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Is that Lloyd's of London? Have you seen it up close? It's embarrassing and stupid.

Now, if you want some real beauty, you have to go back a decade or two to Gateshead and the Trinity Car Park:
http://www.nothingtoseehere.net/2008/02/trinity_car_park_gateshead_1.html

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924633 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924633 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:15:57 -0800 Comment by john hm.

what about

]]> john http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924634 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924634 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:16:15 -0800 Comment by john hm.

what about this?

]]> john http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924638 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924638 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:17:05 -0800 Comment by charles john, what is that? it looks wonderful.

]]> charles http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924647 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924647 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:20:18 -0800 Comment by lostboy I have to hand it to Charles for once, that's a striking photo of a striking building.  Sure wish he had pointed out where it is, though.  Anybody know?

]]> lostboy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924713 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924713 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:45:10 -0800 Comment by Abby I love that building. The City of London area was surprisingly fascinating.

]]> Abby http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924714 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924714 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:45:23 -0800 Comment by Abby @6: Lloyds of London building, in the London financial district (City of London).

]]> Abby http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924721 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924721 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:47:37 -0800 Comment by john it is the james r. thompson center in downtown chicago. it was built in the 80's and designed by 80s wunderkind, helmut jahn. from the outside it looks like the spaceship in close encounters - and please note the absolutely incredible sculpture out front by jean dubuffet. full gallery here.

]]> john http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924723 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924723 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:48:17 -0800 Comment by SeMe nah charles, the 80's?

the 80's began here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRte0S2a_dA

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924744 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924744 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:01:41 -0800 Comment by K @4: Not fair. The building should actually be finished construction in order to count.

]]> K http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924763 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924763 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:08:18 -0800 Comment by lostboy Abby @8, thanks.

]]> lostboy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924791 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924791 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:19:03 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball @4 and @5:

That building, while interesting, cooked everyone in it because of the expanses of glass and the insufficient HVAC. It was a scandal. But Chicago sure does love its Helmut Jahn.

As for Lloyd's, it's incredible -- and no, @2, it's most certainly NOT embarrasing or stupid. What in the world are you going on about?

You want embarassing and/or stupid? Check out some Ballard/Fremont/Wallingford condos.

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924873 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924873 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:50:27 -0800 Comment by -B- The 80's were more noted for Post Modernism. Remember "Memphis design" or "Michael Graves the Public Service Building, Portland OR.

The building you are showing has it's roots in the 70's and the Centre Georges Pompidou.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Georges_Pompidou

It is easy to continuously throw around 80's references because everything is so retro 80's at this point. This is the "Retro Decade" not many unique ideas just a lot of retro references for the last 7 years. Hopefully we will survive and come up with something better to talk about than the 80's all the time.
If we had a stronger identity for this decade then there would have been a far better representation of architecture in lower Manhattan after 911 instead of the "Freedom Tower" and surrounding buildings. But the U.S.A. is quite lost when art and architecture is talked about in this decade. In a slump you might say. So all you get is a retro reference culture because mainstream rules right now and typically mainstream lags. So people label everything as 80's.
The Lloyds Building commission was started in 1979 so definitely it was conceived in the 70's.

]]> -B- http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924875 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c924875 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:51:31 -0800 Comment by Sstarr I was in London when the IRA bombed the Baltic Exchange building. It was a tremendously powerful Oklahoma City style bomb - it nearly vaporized a 900 year old church. I remember quite distinctly that the only building in the area that didn't have shattered windows was the Lloyd's of London building.

]]> Sstarr http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925021 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925021 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:09:47 -0800 Comment by Cale is that a sonic the hedgehog level?

]]> Cale http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925071 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925071 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:30:45 -0800 Comment by Jason Petersen Chaz, why do they pay you? Your output is far less than that of other sloggers and I doubt anyone can make a case for more utility per word.

]]> Jason Petersen http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925181 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925181 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:37:35 -0800 Comment by nbc Speaking of Lloyd's of London, rumor has it that the new Caffe Fiore in Ballard has a salvaged window from the original Lloyd's coffeehouse.

]]> nbc http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925275 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925275 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:44:31 -0800 Comment by Fnarf WHAT? The frame, or the glass? Where's it been all this time?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925296 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/more_than_this_1#c925296 Architecture Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:53:11 -0800 Comment by wdloe http://ezgwa.com/ugtytgty.html >Google

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