2008 Maine Event
posted by February 10 at 12:49 PM
onIt sounds like they’re having similar turnout issues at Maine’s caucuses today:
I am at the Portland caucus now and things here are very chaotic. The line stretched around the block 30 minutes before the doors opened and now encircles the entire block. There are far more people trying to get in than the high school can hold. It will be interesting to see how they sort this out.
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Maine is Clinton Country. Hope Obama gets over 40%.
Maybe, Maybe not. Didn't we think that Connecticut was Clinton country?
obama has an early lead
Early returns make it seem that it'll be closer than the Clinton team anticipated: http://news.mainetoday.com
The media is calling it for Obama, and Hillary fired her campaign manager today.
hillary is gripping.
Hillary's losing badly.
Hillary was expected to use Maine to stem the tide. The last poll showed her with a 20%+ lead there. It appears she is getting trounced. With 69% of the precincts reporting, Obama 58%, Clinton 41%, Undecideds 1%. These small states are beginning to add up.
Obama takes main 1500 to 1100 with 70% reporting
Ayuh, we like Obama from the potato faahms down to the lobstuh boats...
Back when we summered in Maine at French House Island (off Jonesport), I would not have said it's Clinton country - it's more of a mix - but it looks like Obama is winning so far.
Lousy GOP turnout, thank god!
(shout out to Thurman, my fave lobster consultant (in joke))
Maine rocked out with its caucus out today.
superdelegates can do as they please obama super fan. states can choose how they run their delegate elections.
teh ramifications of superdelegates choosing hillary over obama if obama wins the majority of pledged delegates would be huge.
the ramifications of favoring caucuses in some states instead of primaries results in more popular and energized people turning up. are you upset that hillary isnt that person?
whoops, wrong thread
IT's a caucus.
WE know this: Obama can get about 10-15% of thee voters totally energized and impassioned beyond reason, who then can flood the caucuses.
What he can't do: win large states except his home base and GA. And CT was kinda close.
CA NY NJ MA FL MI >>>> IL GA
CT. and MO basically tied.
Oh and on that other thread, if we can change the rules about superdelegates why stop there?
Why don't we just throw out all htese caucus results. You know, they're so undemocratic. Then let's have NEW RULES that favor ONE CANDIDATE OVER THE OTHER and appear to be "PRINCIPLED" even though they're NOT -- like having do-overs in ALL the caucus states and the MORE DEMOCRATIC, PRIMARY ELECTION WHERE EVERYONE CAN VOTE instead.
Gee, once you say changing the rules midstream is allowed, the game can be lots of fun.
Why odn't we make it winner take all while we're at it? That's the traditional way in our democracy. Then we could make Clinton be way ahead.
And talking of stolen elections and such -- what a load of slanderous McCarthyite unfair Rovian malarkey.
The rules are:
1. we have superdelegates.
2. they are not bound.
3. anyone can say anything they want to superdelegates to try to get them to come out one way or another.
4. Therefore to complain if they choose who they independently believe is best -- and to call this stealing an election -- is the most gross and shameful lie possible.
IT's proto fascist.
It's just like when the GOP claims that the WAshington State system of recounts and laws that produced a Democratic victory for Gregoire was a STOLEN election. It's a whiny, childish, change-the-rules-once-you-see-you-are-losing TACTIC that is 100% old style dishonest politics of divisiveness and hate.
You know, I gotta admit to having a twinge of pity/sympathy/empathy for Clinton supporters. It's like they're seeing their hopes and dreams die right before their eyes.
At my precinct yesterday, the only ones that spoke for Clinton were a three women (late 50s, early 60ish) and one man of similar age.
Much as they lambasted Obama for being a one note guy (idealism), all they could do was retreat into her one note (experience). As the utter indifference of the Obama supporters became apparent (even though we politely clapped for them), the desperation on their faces was painful to watch.
It was as if they knew their chance for victory had really come and gone.
oh unPC, arent you seeing you are losing and that clinton is trying to change the rules, or heck even complaining about them? i find it kind of sad that clinton knew what the rules were and she still cant do well within them.
children always seem to complain about the rules when they arent winning, and clinton isnt winning.
i have no problem with superdelegates doing whatever they want. they really need to contemplate what the consequences of their actions are, just like michigan and florida did.
anyway, are you going to vote for obama in november?
above #17
Reverse the question - will the youth wave vote for Hillary?
Hillary is clear in every speech that we must unite to Defeat the Bush neo cons and now Mc Cain.
Obama does not say it the same strong party diehard Democrat way.
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