Slog - Comments on First They Came for the Prostitutes http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes The Democrats are a little crazed this election-year session to look/get tough on crime, and so they've been enthusiastically passing sex offender legislation. The latest bill, which passed the House tonight 80-15, seems a little wild-eyed to me. It requires people who commit the following misdemeanors and gross misdemeanors to give DNA samples to the state: Animal cruelty in the second degree; Assault in the fourth degree; Custodial sexual misconduct in the second degree; Failure to register; Indecent exposure; Patronizing a prostitute; Permitting commercial sexual abuse of a minor; Permitting prostitution; Prostitution; Sexual misconduct with a minor in the second... Copyright 2008 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:01:42 -0800 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:39:44 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Colton Humm - I can understand Animal Cruelty because once they move on to be serial killers it's nice to have previous DNA to convict them;

Prostitution is a little trickier... perhaps that's so they can identify dead prostitute bodies easier?

Either way - the FBI isn't going to go build a DNA database and just have it sit empty are they? That would be a waste of taxpayer money.

]]> Colton http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941186 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941186 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:40:24 -0800 Comment by flyingdics Wow, next time I go streaking, they'll keep my goods on file?

]]> flyingdics http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941206 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941206 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:30:03 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Like it or not, we are rapidly headed towards a day when the government has a DNA sample on file for every man, woman and child in this country. And I'm not 100% sure that's altogether a bad thing. Microchips scare the hell out of me a whole lot more, and that technology exists right now as well.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941211 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941211 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:56:29 -0800 Comment by Andrew Why am I on the Stranger website and see and ad for Republican Eric Cantor from Virginia? This is wrong on so many levels. Has anyone else noticed that?

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941217 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941217 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:24:14 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe -and Fidel Castro resigns as Cuba's President.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941219 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941219 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:43:20 -0800 Comment by Cato the Younger Younger @5, Bush and the right wing wackos will take credit for his resignation.

]]> Cato the Younger Younger http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941221 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941221 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:46:38 -0800 Comment by Greg Cool. Can we add cops found guilty of police misconduct to the list? And how about identity theft and fraud?

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941222 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941222 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:48:44 -0800 Comment by Levislade Permitting prostitution? Isn't anyone who drives down Aurora without calling the police guilty of that?

]]> Levislade http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941229 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941229 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:31:29 -0800 Comment by unPC each party and faction is sometimes right. maybe like a broken clock?

I thoroughly disagree with the libertarian point of view but why do we make drugs and prostitution illegal if it's two consenting adults?

and yes pretty soon we will have a national id card with a chip in it and a dna sample on file and then -- it will be harder to commit crimes.

hopefully it will also lead to confiscation of all guns, too.

]]> unPC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941253 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941253 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:08:39 -0800 Comment by Sean You think this law is overreaching? How about this one, which proposes to impound the car of anyone caught soliciting sex from a prostitute. Note - you lose your car on the spot, before you are even convicted of a crime.

Says chief prude, Tim Carr -"The positive thing about forfeiture is it would deter the guys who pick up street prostitutes." Why not just execute johns on the spot, Carr? That would also have a positive deterring effect.

]]> Sean http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941260 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941260 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:17:47 -0800 Comment by T @10 The death penalty has never proven an effective deterrent.

]]> T http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941289 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941289 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:52:17 -0800 Comment by Reality Check For indecent exposure? Jesus fucking christ. This goddamn liberal asisnine legislature is getting to be too much.

The facist cops will try charging anyone streaking or riding thier bike nekid in protest with indecent exposure to "scare" them into not doing it.

The fucking system is out of control. I've had it with bullshit "protective" laws that save everyone from themselves.

This bullshit really has my torked.

Fucking idiots.

]]> Reality Check http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941304 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941304 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:08:09 -0800 Comment by Chris Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't assault in the fourth degree the lowest form of assault, like spitting or pushing someone? Whereas First degree is a more serious assault? If I'm right that's a hell of a lot of people who could have their DNA taken by the state.

]]> Chris http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941323 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941323 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:40:59 -0800 Comment by Dianna I must wholeheartedly agree with Reality Check. Can we please stop wasting our time on BS feel-good legislation so we sound "tough on crime?"

It's also worth noting that pretty soon, the government will have EVERYONES' fingerprints. There are numerous programs out there to fingerprint your kids (to "save" them if they are kidnapped). Except that having your kids' fingerprints on file will only help ID a body. But it will neatly have them in the system for later adolescent hijinks. Some schools use fingerprints for lunch programs. Yay Democracy!

Unfortunately, no one seems to give a shit.

]]> Dianna http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941343 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941343 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:57:08 -0800 Comment by Louie Basically, the legislature is saying, pimps up, hos down.

Why else would they go after the women, and their tricks and not the men that put them out there?

Its not hard out there for a pimp, but certainly hard out there for a ho.

All those years of pre law and the best they could do is pass a law that could have been drafted by snoop doggie dog.

]]> Louie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941355 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941355 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:10:08 -0800 Comment by infrequent @10... that article is freaky. they could impound your car even if you are at a hotel -- meaning not just street level.

i thought we'd be moving closer toward legalizing prostitution and regulating it. this seems the exact opposite. yes, things like this are why i have those libertarian leanings.

dna? car impounded? whatever.

]]> infrequent http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941367 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941367 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:31:09 -0800 Comment by Gidge @13--I'm so happy that someone else noticed Assault 4 on the list. That would probably have the broadest impact. I'm not sure what the public policy argument is for expanding DNA requirements so much, but it seems extreme.

]]> Gidge http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941374 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/first_they_came_for_the_prostitutes#c941374 Politics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:39:44 -0800