Umm... Hillary Clinton
I blame the Masons. And maybe the Paultards.
Who is making these robocalls? Well, that depends on who stands to gain by suppressing turnout at this weekend’s Democratic caucuses…
Er, no. It depends on who's paying for it. The answer to that question may be implied by who stands to gain, but implication isn't proof.
I seem to recall you struggled with this concept in the Capitol Hill knife slaying as well. Maybe a little remedial study is in order.
Why would Clinton or Obama gain by robocalls supressing turnout? Even if only 5 people show up to caucus, Washington still gets the same number of delegates, right? But I believe the 2012 primary delegates are partially allocated by how many Dems show up Saturday if I'm remembering correctly. So the question you have to ask is, who is planning to run in the 2012 primary who doesn't think Washington will go their way?
Wooo Hillary! Ugh! Fuckin' bitches!
Why would Clinton or Obama gain by robocalls supressing turnout?
Targeted turnout suppression could certainly help. The recipient of this robocall, as noted, was an Obama donor, and thus probably on a list somewhere.
Plus the voters for some one who is expected to win in a landslide are less motivated to caucus if an impediment gets in their way such as bad weather, since their candidate is likely to win anyway.
Arduous, you gdt partial credit. The '12 Dem delegates are awarded based on votes for the Dems in the general election.
@6, yeah but targeting Obama donors would be a huge waste of money for a strapped Clinton campaign, don't you think? Of anyone, campaign donors are probably the most savvy as to how exactly the Washington primary process works. So none of them would fall for the trick.
There's a PSA running on the local stations from the Secretary of State informing voter's how important the primary is. It can be seen at:
http://www.secstate.wa.gov/office/video/Presidential%20Primary%20revised%202.wmv
It's a very misleading ad if nominating delegates are chosen via caucuses.
I've received 2 robocalls from Hill's camp in the last 24 hours. She's the only one calling me, getting on my last nerve.
I hate robocalls. At least have a human try to talk me into your shit.
Wow, I miss out on so much drama by not having a land line. Whatever will dirty tricksters do when everyone is like me and robocalls can't reach anyone anymore?
I used to like Sam Reed, if he wants to be a primary state rather than a caucus one, he needs to be honest with voters about why that is better. But don't lie to us
tsm @12
Whatever will dirty tricksters do when everyone is like me and robocalls can't reach anyone anymore?
They'll change the rules about calling mobile phones, duh.
Sam Reed doesn't want us to be anything. He's just following the law. The law says there has to be a primary. Reed has no say in whether the WA Dems pay attention to it or not.
He can frame the issue in a way that is not misleading. thats his whole fucking job, informing voters and running the elections.
Sam Reed isn't following the law when he writes in the Voters' Pamphlet that voting in the primary will help choose the nominees. He lied and tried to mislead the voters.
Suspicious as this might be--Does the Stranger maybe want to investigate the last-minute changes of a caucus location in Eastern Washington from a student-friendly location to one miles away?
The intent of the law is that the primary will choose the delegates. The party is going against the law. Reed is not in the business of adjudicating intra-party squabbles.
Reaks of Hillary. Read the headlines: Obama is huge in Seattle; KeyArena will be packed; robocalls are relatively cheap (especially if you maxed out on your donation and want to do something "independent" to influence the caucus) "Young" voters (or make that just "most" voters) are confused by the primary/caucus system. Do we need to trace the breadcrumbs all the way to Chappaqua?
We got a Repub call last night too, and we're deep in McDermott territory. Unless we're voting for first in line in hell, we're not voting Repub for anything.
>They'll change the rules about calling mobile phones, duh.
There are rules about that? Because I've gotten a few robocalls on my cell phone.
why the sam reed hate? he seems pretty fair to me. especially in this case, where he is just following the law.
@21 - oh, I don't know, I'd vote for GOP for drafted for the war, or for drafted to be waterboarded ...
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