Slog - Comments on (Credible) Patriotism for Liberals http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals The "Yes We Can" Black Eyed Peas thing is pretty creepy to me, but I will say this: It's a souped-up, smarter version of 2004's clunker: "Hope is on the way," which was pretentious and forced. The Democrats have finally found a hopeful + macho thing that sheds the whiny complainer image and finds a catchy, patriotism for liberals. Hate to say it, but yeah, voila JFK. "Hope is on the Way" = Dukakis in the tank. "Yes We Can" = "Ask not what your country can do for you, but..." p.s. And Scarlett Johansson is smoking hot. pps: And... Copyright 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:06:38 -0800 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:35:27 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Will in Seattle You got that right! Scarlett is smokin hot!

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922572 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922572 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:07:14 -0800 Comment by ghostlawns Andrew Sullivan points to this little tidbit where Hillary has co-opted Obama's slogan:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/02/if-in-doubt-pla.html

How do you Hillary supporters feel about this?

]]> ghostlawns http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922665 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922665 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:17:34 -0800 Comment by Clint Sullivan pretty much sums it up...

"Yes, we can" vs. "Yes, she can." There you have the key difference between the two campaigns.

]]> Clint http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922752 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922752 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:31:16 -0800 Comment by The CHZA Ecch, I'm for Obama but that spot got very discordant very quickly.

]]> The CHZA http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922789 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922789 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:39:17 -0800 Comment by el ganador Josh, you think this is creepy? Why? I thought it was well done, and fairly low on the creep-o-meter.

]]> el ganador http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922793 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922793 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:39:42 -0800 Comment by Jo I kind of like it. Question, though.

At 4:10, there's a woman with what appears to be a tattoo of a pirate flag and a lot of cleavage. She was also in hte middle of the video. Who is she?

]]> Jo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922809 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922809 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:42:50 -0800 Comment by stinkbug What's with all the recycled content on the slog lately?

First dan posted something today that he posted on Saturday.

And now you post a youtube clip that Eli posted on Saturday.

It's as if Saturday never actually happened.

]]> stinkbug http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922882 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922882 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:55:42 -0800 Comment by Andrew That fails as both music and as a rousing political message.

It's pretty corny.

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922895 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922895 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:57:39 -0800 Comment by Dave Coffman It is historicreepy.

BTW, what is it with the Black Eyed Peas thing? I guess I'm getting old but I see them way too much in too much commercialized stuff (thinking Apple products, other commercials, etc). It puts me off. Just sayin.

]]> Dave Coffman http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922908 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922908 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:59:29 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Everyone was busy Saturday, stinkbug.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922921 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922921 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:02:05 -0800 Comment by Ole Creepy is right! This is exactly the image Obama is trying NOT to project. This militant, we-know-best-and-now-we're-doing-it-our-way liberal tone. The guy saying "Si se puede" with the clenched fist salute loses Obama five percent of the vote all by itself.

If Obama's supporters know what's good for their candidate, they'll keep this stuff to a minimum.

]]> Ole http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922922 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922922 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:02:22 -0800 Comment by Dave Coffman @7; I like the repostings. Just think of it as a service for those of us that leave our computers over the weekend.

]]> Dave Coffman http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922936 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922936 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:03:55 -0800 Comment by um yah this thing is corny, and epitomizes the whole paultardedness of obama folks that is driving me so crazy. i keep trying to pretend that he's already won the nomination and placing myself in the mindset that it is him vs. mccain or anyone else. it makes it difficult. its like a bad superbowl commercial.

]]> um http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922976 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c922976 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:14:23 -0800 Comment by tim @11 Agreed on the clenched-fist. Dude may as well have been wearing a Che t-shirt.

I like what (the unabashedly Obama-supporting) John Hodgman said about this video:
"I CAN SEE a cynical argument that points out that most Americans don't care what Michael from LOST or Scarlett Johansson thinks about politics.

BUT I SURE THINK this is beautiful."

]]> tim http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923046 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923046 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:29:50 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle I luv the clenched fist.

It's time to take back America!

Things go in cycles.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923089 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923089 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:40:48 -0800 Comment by johnnie Not surprisingly, I'm no fan of this. It's bad on the ears and reminds me of "PBS Salutes Black History Month" montage of children reciting King's "I Have a Dream." Super hokey.

However, I have had that horrible horrible Seattle Obama song stuck in my head when I'm showering for the past three days.

]]> johnnie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923200 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923200 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:11:49 -0800 Comment by tina @6; the girl that you're talking about is Esthero (I think).

]]> tina http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923223 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923223 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:17:57 -0800 Comment by Jude Fawley Scarlett Johansson is indeed hot - she just exudes sex in her few shots here... but somehow it still annoys me that she is in there singing. It just seems phony, like those AIDS celebrity posters a while ago. Actually, the whole thing is phony. Part of me liked it; I don't think its creepy; but lately even this type of warm fuzzy rhetoric makes me sort of sick.

]]> Jude Fawley http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923272 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923272 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:33:24 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Nah, she's got a great singing voice.

You're getting way too cynical - in a year you can let your hair down and forget about the cynical views that the Occupation has instilled in us.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923467 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923467 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:34:52 -0800 Comment by Mike in Pioneer Square Wow, that was terrible. "Yes we can"... what? Really, can what? Be naive?

Yes you can.

If you heard the Obama radio ads from last week, it sounded like they had a bunch of 13-year-olds cheering in the backgound. Yippee!

]]> Mike in Pioneer Square http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923499 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923499 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:47:32 -0800 Comment by i think the pirate girl is.. is it natasha beddingfield?

]]> i think the pirate girl is.. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923761 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923761 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:35:52 -0800 Comment by Jo @17: A bit of googling tells me that you're right, thanks! Although, I've realized that I have no idea who Esthero is and that the reason I thought I recognized her is that from certain angles she looks a bit like the woman from "Mythbusters."

]]> Jo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923856 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/credible_patriotism_for_liberals#c923856 2008 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:35:27 -0800