Slog - Comments on Clinton Wins New Mexico http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico You think Washington State Republicans have a hard time counting caucus votes? A week and a half after its caucuses, New Mexico's Democratic party finally announces that Hillary Clinton won. So who hates caucuses now? Not the Clinton campaign, which just fired off this email: Hillary Clinton issued the following statement after winning New Mexico, including 27 of New Mexico’s 33 counties, and 14 of the state’s 26 delegates: “I am so proud to have earned the support of New Mexicans from across the state. From strengthening the economy to providing health care for every American to jumpstarting a clean... Copyright 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:55:50 -0800 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:39:56 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by maria WOOT!

]]> maria http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938875 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938875 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:00:41 -0800 Comment by Andrew It is OVER Obama fans!! It is ALL OVER!! Time for Obama to let the grown ups take over.

And remember to vote for Hillary or you will die in a terrorist attack!!

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938898 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938898 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:08:04 -0800 Comment by Andrew So, now NM is a state that matters?

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938906 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938906 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:12:32 -0800 Comment by tsm Congratulations on your single extra unexpected delegate, Clinton supporters.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938911 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938911 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:13:36 -0800 Comment by Cato I thought caucus were not representative of the population!! I mean what about those women who could not get baby sitters!! Obviously this system is broken!!

ECB, The Stranger's village idiot?

]]> Cato http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938913 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938913 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:14:24 -0800 Comment by catnextdoor yeah this is bullshit. the counties that she won are the least populated (AKA: fucking white trash and illiterate as hell). NM is actually THE most illiterate state in the country- proven fact.

Don't be so proud Clinton fans, it doesn't say the best things about you as a supporter.

]]> catnextdoor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938914 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938914 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:14:51 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Yeah, tsm, you're right - it won't matter much after she gets the Michigan and Florida delegates.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938920 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938920 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:17:42 -0800 Comment by Emily wow, sure sucks to be a whiny sore loser. obama time O-V-E-R.

]]> Emily http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938921 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938921 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:18:03 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Correct me if I'm wrong, Eli, but where in what you posted does HRC talk about liking or disliking caucuses?

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938922 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938922 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:19:38 -0800 Comment by Babaloo @6:

What a vicious, vile post. Typical of many Obama supporters on Slog.

I wonder what you would have said about NM if Obama had won the state?

]]> Babaloo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938930 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938930 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:23:43 -0800 Comment by catnextdoor It still amazes me that want a Clinton again. Do you realize that first time voters know nothing but Bush's and Clinton's in office? There is a fucking reason we don't have a monarch, a very good one.

]]> catnextdoor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938932 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938932 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:24:08 -0800 Comment by blank12357 Eli - Insulting remarks like calling New Mexicans "fucking white trash and illiterate as hell" get deleted don't they?

]]> blank12357 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938939 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938939 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:27:57 -0800 Comment by catnextdoor @10 I actually live in NM. Obama has huge supporters in grossly populated counties (around ABQ and SF) but other than that.... uneducated desert rats. Sad but true. Statistic but true. It's actually the third poorest state in the country- at least it was last year.

]]> catnextdoor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938941 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938941 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:29:26 -0800 Comment by catnextdoor BTW- they call themselves desert rats- ok? Or is that too mean too? God you people are sensitive.

]]> catnextdoor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938949 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938949 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:31:53 -0800 Comment by kerri harrop So now Hillary is a caucus fan. Huh. How 'bout that.

Kinda like how she did nothing to stop the war, but now is against it.

]]> kerri harrop http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938954 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938954 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:34:00 -0800 Comment by blank12357 Eli - ditto "uneducated desert rats".

]]> blank12357 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938955 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938955 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:35:21 -0800 Comment by Geni All Your Obama Are Belong To Us! Let's see who leaks clear fluid NOW!

]]> Geni http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938956 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938956 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:36:04 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Um, winning 27 out of 33 counties is hardly something to put down.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938962 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938962 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:39:47 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty Um, winning 27 out of 33 counties is hardly something to put down.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938964 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938964 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:40:44 -0800 Comment by Babaloo @13:

It doesn't matter if it is "true" or not. It is completely uncalled for.

]]> Babaloo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938968 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938968 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:42:47 -0800 Comment by Chris Crocker How dare anyone make fun of Hillary all she's been through!! She lost EIGHT STATES in a ROW!! Her daughter was called a pimp on national television, her husband cheated on her while in office, and now she's running for President!!

All you people care about is votes and delegates, crucifying her in news stories, SHE'S A HUMAN!!!

What you don't realize is Hillary is making this world better, and all you do is write a bunch of crap about her. She's been promised this office for YEARS!!! Her campaign is called "Working for Change, Working for You" for a reason...and you people want is CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE!!!

LEAVE HER ALONE!!

]]> Chris Crocker http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938977 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938977 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:46:40 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Correct me if I'm wrong, kerri harrop@15, but where in what was posted does HRC talk about liking or disliking caucuses?

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938987 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c938987 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:51:51 -0800 Comment by RonK, Seattle If Eli were up on his nominating events, he might have noted that NM is the one caucus that operates like a primary. Polls are open a full 7 hours, you drop off your ballot and leave, there's no interacting with your neighbors, and the winner is the candidate who gets the most votes statewide.

It's called a "caucus" because it's administered by the Democratic Party, not the State, but in all other operational aspects it's a primary.

Which would seem to reinforce Clinton's point.

Does NM "matter"? It's not a big state, and it's not a must-have state, but it's totally a swing state that can decide a close election.

]]> RonK, Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939003 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939003 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:01:59 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Congrats! Sure beats losing eight in a row, huh?

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939006 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939006 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:03:06 -0800 Comment by cochise. damn dude. heard of google?

“That is troubling to me. You know in a situation of a caucus, people who work during that time — they’re disenfranchised. People who can’t be in the state or who are in the military, like the son of the woman who was here who is serving in the Air Force, they cannot be present.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-lowers.html

]]> cochise. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939012 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939012 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:04:00 -0800 Comment by catnextdoor @20 REALLY? Because we new mexicans talk this way about/to each other all the time.... I guess you have to be one to appreciate it. I cant believe people are so freaked out about DESERT RAT too, which is equivalent to SHED BOY in the NW. It's a common term, basically meaning someone who lives out in the desert, lives the traditional life style- they're also called Road Warriors. It's not derogatory at all. Get over it.

]]> catnextdoor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939013 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939013 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:04:11 -0800 Comment by arduous You guys seriously need a more stringent troll policy. This is getting out of hand.

two words: registered usernames.

]]> arduous http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939044 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939044 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:25:10 -0800 Comment by Bub Congratulations to the Clinton campaign on carrying the New Mexico caucuses. - An Obama Supporter

]]> Bub http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939046 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939046 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:26:36 -0800 Comment by Babaloo It wasn't the "desert rat" part of your post that was objectionable to me, it was the "fucking illiterate white trash" part.

Calling all Slog commenters (including Stranger staffers) can we please commit to trying to raise discourse to a civil level in here? On ALL sides?

]]> Babaloo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939077 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939077 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:50:19 -0800 Comment by Fnarf What's going unrecorded in the middle of all this hostility is that only one delegate was at stake. NM's not winner-take-all. The two candidates basically tied, and all but one of the delegates was already assigned -- 12 to Obama, 13 to Clinton. This win gives her one more. One delegate.

I guess you take 'em where you find 'em.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939113 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939113 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:17:52 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Oh, and "shed boy"?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939151 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939151 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:00:27 -0800 Comment by catnextdoor Fnarf, you know shed boy right? Right? I would have hoped you would know this term... it's a big NW slang for guys who live in a shed/cabin, usually with no running water/electricity, play guitar... I'm generalizing, but it's a common term among the locals especially in the olympic peninsula. Go to breakfast at a local joint and find a "shed boy scram" for cheap. People who carry the term shed boy, like desert rat, carry it with pride.

@29 yeah I said that to piss off the Hilz voters. I guess it, um, worked? It's true though, and I would think that readers of a paper like the stranger, where you all bash the republicans with nasty terms would at least find it humorous that our great Hilary Clinton is a popular vote with middle America "illiterate white trash" people. I think its, well, really funny. But then again, I'm a bitch.

]]> catnextdoor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939173 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939173 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:23:00 -0800 Comment by Big Sven "Shed boy." When the kids are off at college, and Inga leaves me for the pool boy, I'm going to build me a shed up in the mountains. No running water. No electricity.

I never knew there was a term for the lifestyle that I wanted.

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939185 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939185 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:38:58 -0800 Comment by earl lee REMEMBER THAT THE TWO HOLER CAN IMPPROVE YOUR SEX LIFE -

GOOD LUCK BIG GUY

]]> earl lee http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939249 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939249 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:06:10 -0800 Comment by RainMan I always thought illiterate white trash voted Republican. Who else listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Faux News? Who brought us eight years of Bush? These same people will vote for McCain in November because they think Jesus told them to.

]]> RainMan http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939333 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939333 2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:04:05 -0800 Comment by Morgan I worked on a congressional campaign in Albuquerque in '06, and I can say from personal experience that the Secretary of State and associated elections officials there are fucking incompetent. They bungled that election in ways that probably led to the defeat of the Democratic candidate. (This from a state office dominated by Democrats in a state known for corrupt political machines. If you can't get corruption right, what can you do?)

]]> Morgan http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939402 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/02/clinton_wins_new_mexico#c939402 2008 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:39:56 -0800