Her friend of 35 years teared up first. Try not getting verklempt when your friends are already so. Plus both candidates have been running nonstop for days.
This is an ominous pattern. As President, how often are we going to see Hillary roll out the tears? Once per crisis? Whenever she's feeling tired? Whenever there's been a particularly strong attack from the wingers? Or will she put the tears away until next campaign?
wow eli, what a great non-story. you are officially an ass and every bad thing ECB has implied about you. she didn't cry the first time, and she didn't cry this time. i'm officially a clinton guy now. i can't believe how some people will stop at nothing to humiliate her and denigrate her years of public service.
I'm an Obama supporter and I think strategically-speaking putting Hillary as the nominee would be the dumbest move the party could make. However, I just can't support making these barely-a-tear moments newsworthy. Or the speculation "are they real/are they fake?".
My default assumption is that you are bluffing when you claim to have switched to candidate Y in direct response to somebody's support of candidate X. It's just classic passive-aggressive blackmail. Saying "shut up!" in all caps makes you look like a child, but saying "you've turned me against your candidate" is also bullshit.
The only trick that's more stale is to constantly claim to be undecided or neutral prior to consistently attacking one side and defending the other.
Oh. And threatening to vote Republican if your candidate doesn't get the Democratic nomination. That's a bullshit bluff too.
I bet Obama wishes he could add tears to his own stagecraft. His "inspirational" mode would benefit from a little welling up every now and then.
But he's smart: it would feel better to him, no doubt, but he knows he'd lose a lot of his men (and women who want a "real" man) if he did. Not to mention lose the chance to denigrate Hil's welling-up routine.
@12 Have to disagree with you there. It's called a backlash. If a lot of people who support candidate X are assholes, candidate Y starts to look a whole lot bettter. Seems perfectly logical and normal to me.
The other two points I agree with though.
anyone who says they're not voting for a candidate because his/her supporters on some random blog are a bunch of meanies, and actually follows through on that, is a childish fucking RETARD. you can quote me on that.
it's even more retarded than picking a candidate based on who you'd like to have a beer with. you're picking a candidate based on whose supporters you'd like to have a beer with. D-U-M-B.
So what. Her eyes barely welled-up with tears two times. Perhaps it gave her some political advantage the first time, which she could not have predicted. She's not faking. It's obvious. You're an asshole if you think otherwise.
anyone who says they're not voting for a candidate because his/her supporters on some random blog are a bunch of meanies, and actually follows through on that, is a childish fucking RETARD.
Yup. It's equivalent to a little kid holding his breath until he gets what he wants. Why, the whining of Clinton supporters about this is .... it's ... it's enough to get me to vote for Obama! So there! Nyah nyah.
Can anyone tell me with a straight face, after how she won New Hampshire after her tears, that she's not attempting exactly the same thing now?
Even if we accept they were genuine the first time, can you really honestly say, without a shred of doubt, that these tears aren't fabricated expressly because the ones in NH worked so well?
@26 - Sure seems that way to me. Real, that is. You and some others are far too critical. Do you know the pressure that she and other serious Presidential contenders are under? Well, let's compare it, for example, to the Superbowl players (who I would argue don't have even a small percentage of the pressure that Presidential candidates do). They cried. Did we all rise up with vitriol and hatred? No. Your spite seems to be based in misogyny. Get over it please.
When Obama supporters complain about the Clinton surrogates' race baiting, we are told that Obama is too soft to stand up to the right wing smear machine. When we wonder if Hillary's crying episodes aren't making her look either unstable or cynical, then we are told to stop beating up on her so badly.
Seems to me the rules change depending on which candidate is being critiqued.
All I came away with was the impression that Ms. Clinton takes seriously the plight of disadvantaged kids. I am impressed by her work in that regard. Her friend was sincere. Sounds like she deserved the kudos. So what if her eyes water.
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Her friend of 35 years teared up first. Try not getting verklempt when your friends are already so. Plus both candidates have been running nonstop for days.
Isn't it suspiciously surprising that she conveniently tears up when a close vote is only days away?
Geessshhhhh Could this be anything OTHER than calculated?
Can you smell the desperation?
PLEASE, Hillary being calculating? PLEASE!! I am sure they are real tears. LOL!!!! HA HA HA HA!!!
I'm not sure if I'm being serious or facetious with this comment but:
what a cold bitch.
Seems like just 28 days ago the same thing happened in New Hampshire.
Hm...
*yawn*
This is an ominous pattern. As President, how often are we going to see Hillary roll out the tears? Once per crisis? Whenever she's feeling tired? Whenever there's been a particularly strong attack from the wingers? Or will she put the tears away until next campaign?
Speaking of political machinations, I put an Obama sign up in my yard on a relatively high-traffic corner at 3 pm on Saturday. It was stolen by 10 pm.
wow eli, what a great non-story. you are officially an ass and every bad thing ECB has implied about you. she didn't cry the first time, and she didn't cry this time. i'm officially a clinton guy now. i can't believe how some people will stop at nothing to humiliate her and denigrate her years of public service.
I'm an Obama supporter and I think strategically-speaking putting Hillary as the nominee would be the dumbest move the party could make. However, I just can't support making these barely-a-tear moments newsworthy. Or the speculation "are they real/are they fake?".
My default assumption is that you are bluffing when you claim to have switched to candidate Y in direct response to somebody's support of candidate X. It's just classic passive-aggressive blackmail. Saying "shut up!" in all caps makes you look like a child, but saying "you've turned me against your candidate" is also bullshit.
The only trick that's more stale is to constantly claim to be undecided or neutral prior to consistently attacking one side and defending the other.
Oh. And threatening to vote Republican if your candidate doesn't get the Democratic nomination. That's a bullshit bluff too.
there is no story here. tears of pride, prompted by a friend's kind words, are much different than tears of self-pity.
I bet Obama wishes he could add tears to his own stagecraft. His "inspirational" mode would benefit from a little welling up every now and then.
But he's smart: it would feel better to him, no doubt, but he knows he'd lose a lot of his men (and women who want a "real" man) if he did. Not to mention lose the chance to denigrate Hil's welling-up routine.
@12 Have to disagree with you there. It's called a backlash. If a lot of people who support candidate X are assholes, candidate Y starts to look a whole lot bettter. Seems perfectly logical and normal to me.
The other two points I agree with though.
elenchos, you don't exist. you're just my double login. you're my sock puppet. while i have no way to prove this i'm going to say it anyway.
same argument for "bluffing". why arent you taking it at face value?
if there were a way to prove that i voted for a republican instead of hillary i would, but so far there isnt, now is there? so why question it?
BACK OFF. hehe
i do not give a shit.
even more of a non-story than the new hampshire town hall story. way to go!
anyone who says they're not voting for a candidate because his/her supporters on some random blog are a bunch of meanies, and actually follows through on that, is a childish fucking RETARD. you can quote me on that.
it's even more retarded than picking a candidate based on who you'd like to have a beer with. you're picking a candidate based on whose supporters you'd like to have a beer with. D-U-M-B.
When Senator Clinton looks into Vladmir Putin's eyes, she cries.
So what. Her eyes barely welled-up with tears two times. Perhaps it gave her some political advantage the first time, which she could not have predicted. She's not faking. It's obvious. You're an asshole if you think otherwise.
I can't wait to see Hillary cry when Obama gives his inaugural address next year.
Yup. It's equivalent to a little kid holding his breath until he gets what he wants. Why, the whining of Clinton supporters about this is .... it's ... it's enough to get me to vote for Obama! So there! Nyah nyah.
(The article? Didn't read it. Don't care.)
@8... "ominous pattern"... really?
Can anyone tell me with a straight face, after how she won New Hampshire after her tears, that she's not attempting exactly the same thing now?
Even if we accept they were genuine the first time, can you really honestly say, without a shred of doubt, that these tears aren't fabricated expressly because the ones in NH worked so well?
@26 - Sure seems that way to me. Real, that is. You and some others are far too critical. Do you know the pressure that she and other serious Presidential contenders are under? Well, let's compare it, for example, to the Superbowl players (who I would argue don't have even a small percentage of the pressure that Presidential candidates do). They cried. Did we all rise up with vitriol and hatred? No. Your spite seems to be based in misogyny. Get over it please.
When Obama supporters complain about the Clinton surrogates' race baiting, we are told that Obama is too soft to stand up to the right wing smear machine. When we wonder if Hillary's crying episodes aren't making her look either unstable or cynical, then we are told to stop beating up on her so badly.
Seems to me the rules change depending on which candidate is being critiqued.
All I came away with was the impression that Ms. Clinton takes seriously the plight of disadvantaged kids. I am impressed by her work in that regard. Her friend was sincere. Sounds like she deserved the kudos. So what if her eyes water.
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