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Thursday, February 7, 2008

Another New Clinton Ad in Washington

posted by on February 7 at 15:44 PM

This one touting the endorsements of Sens. Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell:

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What? No puppies?

Posted by Andy Niable | February 7, 2008 3:59 PM
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Where are the kittens?

Posted by Will in Seattle | February 7, 2008 4:00 PM
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she is running on health care alone? amazing.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | February 7, 2008 4:01 PM
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It is more truthful than Obama's ads where he claims that he has a universal health care plan.

She isn't running just on health care, but is running a commercial about her health care policy. It is an issue ad, candidates do it all the time.

Posted by Annie | February 7, 2008 4:09 PM
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where are her pro iraq war ads?
or sub prime mortgage lender bailout plans ad?
or her rasmussen poll of electability?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Posted by Bellevue Ave | February 7, 2008 4:19 PM
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this one is a lot better.


p.s., Bellevue Ave, where are Obama's ads telling us what he's done to end the war aside from his speech in 2002?

Posted by josh | February 7, 2008 4:23 PM
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dude doesnt need ads to win the democratic base, cause most those hillary supporters would vote for him regardless. but since you asked.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

As a candidate for the United States Senate in 2002, Obama put his political career on the line to oppose going to war in Iraq, and warned of “an occupation of undetermined length, with undetermined costs, and undetermined consequences.” Obama has been a consistent, principled and vocal opponent of the war in Iraq.

* In 2003 and 2004, he spoke out against the war on the campaign trail;
* In 2005, he called for a phased withdrawal of our troops;
* In 2006, he called for a timetable to remove our troops, a political solution within Iraq, and aggressive diplomacy with all of Iraq’s neighbors;
* In January 2007, he introduced legislation in the Senate to remove all of our combat troops from Iraq by March 2008.
* In September 2007, he laid out a detailed plan for how he will end the war as president.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | February 7, 2008 4:26 PM
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Where is Obama's Pro-Right to Bear Arms Ads (the view he trucked out for the Idaho rally he held)?

Where is the Obama pro-nuclear industry ad (NY Times did a great article about this)?

We could go all day like this, is that really a rational way to talk about a political ad?

I was just pointing out that she was only talking about healthcare in this ad because she was doing a policy ad that was commonly done. Clearly, you felt like I was personally attacking Barack Obama.

But since you brought up Iraq, the last time I checked, Obama and Clinton's votes in the Senate with regard to the Iraq war have been exactly the same. Neither have done a good job at ending it, but we are all hoping that either of them will as president.

Posted by Annie | February 7, 2008 4:28 PM
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I'm dissappointed in Patty. She had the sense to vote against the war, but she backs someone who did. And, unlike Ron "Tax to the max" Sims, Patty doesn't need any favors from anyone, including Obama. Don't get me started on Cantwell.

Posted by C'mon | February 7, 2008 4:30 PM
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Yup she killed healthcare reform for a decade before it was popular to do so. Look in regard to healthcare it is a question of who can get it done and my bet is on Obama. Don't get me wrong here, I am a huge fan of drastic healthcare reform as is SEIU. I just think the best team starts with Obama in the whitehouse and Clinton in the senate with our great senators.
And Bellevue Ave, Survey USA has a poll that shows the same thing only in regard to our state. Clinton does not match up well with McCane and Obama kicks his fanny. Can we say ass here?

Posted by Particle Man | February 7, 2008 4:31 PM
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I agree that Barack has given some nice speeches about ending the war in Iraq, but in terms of his actual votes, and in terms of actual legislation on the matter, he hasn't done anything that Hillary hasn't done. He has always voted to fund the troops there, the same way she did.

They both have plans for withdrawing the troops, she has made that a platform of her campaign as well.

Posted by Annie | February 7, 2008 4:31 PM
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After the blunders of polling during the primary season, anyone who is banking on polls to tell them who is the most electable in the fall is fooling themeselves. Besides, so many factors have to be determined before that, namely running mates. McCain on his own might be appealing to moderates, but with someone like Huckabee on the ticket as his running mate, I am doubtful he would be as attractive to an independent voter.

Posted by Annie | February 7, 2008 4:35 PM
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Annie, wouldnt it be a nightmare if Crist was vice presidnet?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | February 7, 2008 4:44 PM
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Are you talking about Charlie Crist, the governor of Florida?

Posted by Annie | February 7, 2008 4:47 PM
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The one, the only. He's kind of southern, he's got good conservative creds, he is a lock on Mr. Poe's vote. the big 3!

Posted by Bellevue Ave | February 7, 2008 4:56 PM
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Hmmm, I am not sure, I would have to do my research before I could say anything with certainty. My family is from Florida, and he is pretty well-liked in the state. However, that could also pose a problem for Obama as well - if he is against seating delegates from Florida at the DNC, then I don't think he would win the state in a general election, because Florida voters would be turned off by that.

However, if Hillary picked someone like Evan Bayh from Indiana as her running mate, who is extremely well-liked and is from a Red State, than she could be just as appealing to moderate and independent voters.

It really just seems to early to speculate about the general election, because there are so many unknowns, and that is why any poll about the general election has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Posted by Annie | February 7, 2008 5:09 PM
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What about Dicks?

Rep. Norm Dicks endorsed Hillary today (after giving up on Gore).

!!! DICKS FOR HILLARY !!!

;-0

Posted by RonK, Seattle | February 7, 2008 5:24 PM
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RonK - Alright, even I think that is pretty funny.

Posted by Annie | February 7, 2008 5:31 PM
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The two Dem candidates health care plans are identical EXCEPT the mandate included in the Clintons.

I see why they put that in, but they failed to put in how they ENFORCE the mandate.

On This Week with George S last weekend, she said they would enforce it with fines, garnishing wages, etc.

They also base the plan on the current for profit insurance industry.

So in summary:

The Clintons mandate everyone to buy a for profit product and then GARNISH their wages if they don't?

That will get through Congress how?

See that's the problem...no Prez can make health care reform happen. They can propose a plan to Congress, but it will come out (IF it comes out) of Congress very different than it went in.

Even if Congress accepts mandates and garnishing, it doesn't work to cover all and it ends up costing a ton.

The Clinton's plan is based on the Massachusetts plan which is failing badly:
http://boston.bizjournals.com/boston/stories/2008/01/28/daily17.html

California just failed to pass their own plan based on the Massachusetts plan:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/us/29health.html?ref=us

The Clintons plan will not pass Congress. Even if it did, it won't work.

This is too serious to believe hype. Do your own independent research.

Posted by G Davis | February 7, 2008 11:46 PM

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