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Monday, February 18, 2008

2008 Bash Highlights

posted by on February 18 at 21:39 PM

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The crock pot and scrabble were good.

The doll was sad ...

Posted by Will in Seattle | February 19, 2008 12:24 AM
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Lovely! Looks like it was a lot of fun.

Off I go to reserve my flights and hotel for the 2009 Bash ;-)

Posted by YO | February 19, 2008 5:30 AM
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Haha, sweet. I'm at about 4:15! Yay for closure involving Dan's underwear!

Posted by Aislinn | February 19, 2008 10:21 AM
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Oh, that's whose underwear it was.

I missed the bra explanation, though. Was that a gift, or did she find another woman's bra?

Posted by Will in Seattle | February 19, 2008 10:51 AM
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@4: Her boyfriends (there were two that did this) were boob-phobic jerks who asked her to wear the bra during sex.

Posted by Aislinn | February 19, 2008 10:59 AM
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The dildo chop! Ouch.

Posted by trent moorman | February 19, 2008 11:46 AM
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did she have ugly boobs?

Posted by jon | February 19, 2008 11:51 AM
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@7: That's her, at 0:36. They looked totally normal, though she said that she was wearing a bra at the time and that it helped with shaping. I think the main problem was that the second boyfriend knew her last boyfriend hating her boobs had been a problem, so asking her to cover up was a little insensitive...

Posted by Aislinn | February 19, 2008 12:15 PM
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hmmm. I can't watch it right now so it'll have to wait until I'm home. maybe she should stop dating assholes or get some kind of reconstructive surgery. maybe both. I can't stand women who need constant reassurance about their breasts.

Posted by jon | February 19, 2008 2:08 PM
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hmmm... i think it's more common for men to make women feel self-conscious about their bodies then for women to annoy men by seeking reassurance.

the woman look fine on the video.... cute even.

so she found a suitable piece of memorabilia to destroy, i don't think the response is, "maybe you should get some surgery."

that said, i've never heard of guys being "boob-phobic" before. how strange we people can be.

Posted by infrequent | February 19, 2008 2:13 PM
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to be fair I also said she should stop dating assholes. if her boobs make her feel bad about herself then she should get them done, if not then she shouldn't. duh.

Posted by jon | February 19, 2008 2:18 PM
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@5 - serious?

Wow.

I thought most guys know that they come in all shapes and sizes ... maybe only in Canada ... didn't they explain this to you in school down here?

Posted by Will in Seattle | February 19, 2008 2:18 PM
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yeah i saw that. i was just offering my comment that i think it's more likely they were assholes. both occur. and sometimes it's difficult to avoid the "asshole", especially when they actually might be normal in nearly every other way.

but getting your boobs done, in whatever form that might mean for this case, if it's an option to "correct" the "problem" at all might not be a viable option. or the person might like them and still encounter guys who don't. i don't know. who knows? i don't.

Posted by infrequent | February 19, 2008 3:08 PM
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Which women need constant reassurance about their breasts? I generally present mine without additional comment.

Her boobs didn't make her feel bad about herself. Boyfriends who wouldn't have sex with her unless they were covered made her feel bad about herself. Having Dan burn the bra, and thus a reminder of those boyfriends, was about her feeling good about herself again. I don't think she's a candidate for plastic surgery.

"Boob-phobic" was slightly hyperbolic, infrequent ;)

Posted by Aislinn | February 19, 2008 3:40 PM
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Well, two cheers for Dan, and two Bronx cheers for the boyfriends.

Women have enough problems with self-image anyway. Undeservedly so, IMHO.

Posted by Will in Seattle | February 19, 2008 5:06 PM
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Some women do Aislinn. Can you honestly say that you have never sought reassurance about various parts of your body from a man? What is your least favorite part? What is your most favorite part? You don't seem to have much in the way of breasts. Does that bother you? Does it bother the men you are involved with? Do you every worry that they aren't attracted to you and you are just there to pass the time or give them an ego boost?


Men can be jerks. Is that news? I don't think the girl should have surgery to please men. I merely meant that if she disliked a part of herself she should take steps to change that. Surgery may be extreme, but for some people thats the answer. Maybe you should stop taking everything so personally.

Posted by jon | February 19, 2008 8:56 PM
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jon, you go too far, and your bias is obvious.

a woman says she's burning a bra because her last two boyfriends made her wear a bra during sex. your response to this is to ask if she had ugly boobs, not to say, "were those guys assholes?" not, "did she have ugly boobs or were those guys assholes?" and of course not, "did those guys know how bad they made her feel?"

at first i thought you were joking. but upon later readings, i think you've had a bad experience. and i also think that perhaps your bad experience was because you made a woman uncomfortable. (though I hope you'd never say to a woman when she asked you, "if you are uncomfortable with your breasts, get a boob job.")

i think this because i see what you write to aislinn. you make an insensitive comment about her breasts, and then try to prompt negative thoughts. what are you doing? that's just mean. you are trying to make her uncomfortable about her breasts -- and that was her point. if you cannot see why your comments would make a woman who was normally fine become uncomfortable, then you really are part of the problem.

or, another way to put it, according to your own definition, you are being an asshole.

to address your last message specifically:

1) no one said it was news -- this was a party where you destroyed something that reminded you of a past relationship. i think a bra works quite nicely.

2) you still never deal with the idea that some men make some women feel bad about themselves -- when the women felt fine beforehand. these men don't always appear as assholes when you first meet them.

3) she never said she felt bad about her breasts.

4) i don't think aislinn took anything overly personally.

that's the long version. the short version is this: you're giving me a bad name.

i really don't get the boob-phobic remark, hyperbole or otherwise, as i didn't know men were boob-phobic. but after reading what you've written, jon, i'm starting to get an idea of what she might be talking about.

Posted by infrequent | February 20, 2008 12:41 PM

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