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“I feel like if I had seen it, it would have hurt me."

Bet it hurt the rats more.

Posted by ouch | January 11, 2008 6:35 PM
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This is serious, right? Like you really, honestly believe that any of us actually gives a flying fuck about this shit? Jeezus, and they call me "disturbed."

Posted by Captain America | January 11, 2008 6:48 PM
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I'm glad you asked about the rats. It was gnawing at me too.

Posted by Jim Demetre | January 11, 2008 8:48 PM
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Real rats never die, they just reincarnate as Marxist-based critical theory. Except for rats that are also chefs, who are capitalist and more real than theory. Which are you? How do you feel about your narrative arc in retrospect? Does it hurt? Does it hurt art?

Posted by Mr Catnip | January 12, 2008 12:07 AM
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What Jen Graves needs is a salad and a lap around the pool...

Posted by Jim Dine | January 12, 2008 2:59 AM
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I went to the Kim Jones opening. Only one or two of his pieces spoke to me. The costume thing was opaque and kinda dumb. Now that I know that this guy is capable of burning animals ALIVE I am very certain that this guy is a piece of shit and someone should get his crap the hell out of that museum.
He should have been banned from the art world immediately after he tortured the animals. Period. I'm disgusted that he wasn't.

Posted by RATS | January 12, 2008 10:39 AM
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How exactly would someone be "banned from the art world"?
The National Artist licensing board takes away their right to paint?

Ozzy Osbourne bites the heads off some live animals, shot 17 of his own cats, and is now one of the richest musicians in the UK, worth well over One Hundred Million Pounds.

That banning thing seems to really work, doesnt it?
Then again, maybe Ozzy was banned from the art world- havent seen any shows of his at the Henry lately...

Posted by Ries | January 12, 2008 1:55 PM
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Kim Jones is a Vietnam vet... a pretty disturbed one at that... I think that explains some of his work. I feel that he has a significant voice because of that. Storr's talk was very interesting. This quote is from an entry on "ArtScene" found here: http://artscenecal.com/ArticlesFile/Archive/Articles2007/Articles0307/KiJonesA.html

And those rats? Hard to explain, hard to defend an act of wanton cruelty, unless in the context of other, often far greater acts of human cruelty that provided the historical context for Jones’s performance at the time. This personal history included service in the nightmare of the Vietnam war, where Jones and his fellow US marines would torture rats in the mud-holes where they spent their days, out of anger, out of cynicism, out of spite, perhaps directed at the callousness of the political contingencies that led them there. Sheer boredom could be it, or, in a larger context, the act reflected human fear or indifference in regards to the well-being of other creatures that share this planet with us. Maybe the rats and the the whole invocation of suffering tapped into our ancient, primordial impulses to ward off the blows of the gods through ritual acts of sacrifice. Let’s face it, in the course of human history, humanity has been guilty of far worse deeds than the immolation of a handful of rats. Jones’s action was intended precisely to confront us with that history, and with the deeply disturbing understanding that the veneer of what we believe to be our more enlightened civilization is thin indeed.
Posted by Jamey | January 13, 2008 6:16 PM
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Robert Storr doesn't have a clue. His Venice Bennale was a joke. No not a joke...an insult! I'm not surprised he was "contradictory".

What teh world needs is a new Robert Storr. Burn the old one.

Posted by scott redford | January 14, 2008 1:30 AM

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