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Monday, January 28, 2008

Wait a Second—Didn’t the Surge Fix Everything?

posted by on January 28 at 11:36 AM

NYT:

Five American soldiers were killed in the northern city of Mosul on Monday when militants attacked them with a roadside bomb and then fired on their patrol from a nearby mosque with machine guns, military officials said. The troops returned fire and Iraqi forces raided the mosque, but the gunmen had fled, they said.

It was the second catastrophic attack on United States forces this month, after a house rigged with explosives killed six soldiers in Diyala three weeks ago. The attack underscored the grim situation in Mosul, Iraq’s northern hub, which remains a stronghold for Sunni extremist fighters.

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Nope.

And none of the 80 percent of America who care about what direction our country is going in will be watching the Liar-in-Chief tonight either.

We have better things to do.

Sure, some of us will watch the Daily Show sendup of the latest batch of LIES, or maybe the Tonight Show riff on them, but the neocons and their traitorous lies are so OVER.

Posted by Will in Seattle | January 28, 2008 11:43 AM
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Like...yeah! Dumb Bushitler. His lies are like, so totally over. I'm so angry and outraged right now, I think I'm going to go on a total 1-day frappachino-strike until Bushitler and his tRa1TEr0uS scumbucket friends are gone!!!111

Like...FIGHT THE POWER, OK!!?!

Posted by uh huh | January 28, 2008 11:49 AM
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Mosul has always been one of the least under-control cities in Iraq, and still one of the places where Al-Queda In Iraq still has a strong presence.

Sure, things have been fairly quite for the past couple of months, but that's mainly been due to Muqtada al-Sadr reining in his Shi'a militias.

If, as it appears, insurgent, or more specifically, Al-Queda led offenses against U.S. troops are on the rise after a temporary lull, then it remains to be seen whether the "surge" will prove-out to be an effective long-term strategy. Many critics of the war rightfully point to the decided lack of progress on the part of Malaki's government to meet previously assigned "benchmarks" as one sign the increase in troop-strength has not met the Administration's and DoD's stated objectives.

Posted by COMTE | January 28, 2008 11:52 AM
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Eh. If I were an insurgent, I would realize that the surge had to end by April, simply because without extending deployments to two years, we simply don't have enough troops to even maintain the surge. So, with 30,000 extra troops already being rotated out, you spend your time building bombs, acquiring weapons and ammunition, and when the last one is out, go wild.

Posted by Gitai | January 28, 2008 12:03 PM
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Shit, we surged in the wrong area! Clearly we need a second surge for the north!

I hear McCain supports it.

Posted by mjg | January 28, 2008 12:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure only Andrew Sullivan still thinks the surge fixed everything.

Posted by thegayrecluse | January 28, 2008 12:46 PM
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McCain always supports more draining of US tax dollars for the war machine.

How's that economy working for ya, Red Bushies? I mean, the 99.9 percent of you that are getting royally scr.w.d

Posted by Will in Seattle | January 28, 2008 12:49 PM
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It was funny (just kidding...) watching McCain on Meet the Press yesterday.

Defending the war, defending the surge - convinced he can convince America of the rightness of a hundred years of war. At one point (was that just yesterday?), I was hoping he'd win the GOP nomination. Taking it all back and routing for Huckabee now.

Obama could beat him easy, right? Right?

Posted by Ayden | January 28, 2008 1:01 PM
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Oh, you young whipper snappers, you don't remember the body counts on the evening news during the Vietnam war do you? 5 today, and 6 three weeks ago, Come on, the average in Vietnam was more than that many per day, every day, for 10 years, at the loss rate in Iraq it will take a 100 yeas to equal ..., oh, um, never mind. Anyway, I'm pretty sure drunk driving kills more young Americans than Iraq. Isn't the freedom of the Iraqi people worth some sacrifice? (for what it's worth, even though I'm not much older than you I do remember enough about Vietnam that I never thought invading Iraq would do be people of Iraq any net good, sure Saddam was bad, but a war was not going to be better.)

Posted by Epimetheus | January 28, 2008 5:09 PM
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@9

Fortunately (unfortunately?) I DO remember those daily newscasts. Back in the day, I was a frequent marcher on Washington...

Yeah - not anywhere near as many Americans are being killed. (But a hell of a lot more money is being thrown away...)

Your comments remind me of what my father said after the 9/11 attacks. "This is nothing. If you want slaughter, you should have been in London during the blitz."

He was right. Does that make 9/11 OK? (Or even trivial?) Does it make our foolish response OK?

I sincerely wish we could fix Iraq. But we can't. We've opened Pandora's box and there's no way to stuff everything back in.

We broke a country. Maybe we could learn not to do that anymore??

Posted by Ayden | January 28, 2008 7:15 PM
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Amen, brother.

Posted by drewl | January 28, 2008 9:29 PM

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