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A campaign to get men to sit to pee is bound to be the least successful campaign in human history. I'm standing. Sorry.

Posted by tsm | January 17, 2008 9:08 AM

I'm pro not having my bathroom splattered with pee. I'm con the type of guy (for boyfriends) who'd sit and pee. Unless they're drunk. All drunk guys should pee out doors or, if they must pee inside, pee sitting down.

Posted by Poster Girl | January 17, 2008 9:20 AM

how can you be "furious, outraged, etc" and simultaneously "utterly dismissive" of someone or something, hmmm? i like that obama gets under clinton's skin. shows her humanity, doesn't it? also show obama is a real threat to hrc.

Posted by ellarosa | January 17, 2008 9:31 AM


Dude, seriously, you should never link to Real Clear Politics; that right-wing horseshit will liquefy your brain.

Check out Forbes or Worth if you're jonesing to read up on the thoughts of the wealthy, sadistic and clinically insane.

Posted by Original Andrew | January 17, 2008 9:34 AM

I used to be far more right-wing than I am now. Then I spent got a job that required me to read a lot of blogs. Lots and lots of mostly right-wing blogs. What it actually did was show me just how completely fucking nuts most of these people are. I still go check them out occasionally to remind myself.

Posted by Mike of Renton | January 17, 2008 9:44 AM

Men's rooms on trains and ferries in Germany have a picture of an international stick figure sitting on a toilet with his international stick figure dick inside the toilet bowl - a request to please sit while peeing. It's cleaner, you see, from a social POV than splattering urine all about while standing. And splattering does happen to even the most careful amongst us.

Posted by Bauhaus | January 17, 2008 10:24 AM
Posted by it's ME | January 17, 2008 10:36 AM

while it may fail either way, any effort to get men to sit while urinating is far more tolerable when suggested for sanitary reasons, as opposed to the fashion revenge motive.

Posted by infrequent | January 17, 2008 10:41 AM

@6 - they don't have urinals in Germany? And yeah, leaving piss on the seat is rude, but why does the seat go up if we're supposed be so obsessed with keeping the whole process clean? The idea is that you put up the seat (with the toe of your foot if you're squeamish), do your business, maybe splatter a bit on the surface of the bowl if you're not careful, but still leave the seat pristine. Who sits on the surface of the bowl anyway?

Posted by careful upright urinator | January 17, 2008 10:52 AM

Ms. Prada didn't really suggest that men sit to pee. She made some pants with no front fly...

The collection was beautiful, partially because of its impracticality -- pants with no fly, shirts that button up the back, what appeared to be some kind of panty or chastiy belt peeking out above the waistline. And the tutu belts were hilarious.

It seemed to me that she was referencing the ritual aspects of dressing, and perhaps some reflections on "forced feminization" fetishists.

I think it's sexy to need a little help getting dressed.

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | January 17, 2008 10:55 AM

I love how the writer gets all condemnatory "when designers stop conceding to biological function, they move away from the realm of fashion and into that of social engineering."
...Unless, you know, it's the outrageous shit they stuff women in. That's all cool.

Posted by chi type | January 17, 2008 11:11 AM

I always thought that ex-presidents (and soon-to-be-ex) labored over keeping their 'Legacy' pristine. Bill Clinton is definitely fucking his up, big time, by getting involved with all this dirty anti-Obama slinging.

Posted by Karlheinz Arschbomber | January 17, 2008 11:26 AM

The day they make men sit down to pee is the day 100 percent of all men are trained to put down the toilet seat after use.

Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by Will in Seattle | January 17, 2008 11:51 AM

Who gives a fuck what Robert Novak thinks about anything?

Posted by DOUG. | January 17, 2008 12:45 PM

@ #7 It's me

Thanks for the grins!

Posted by sceptic | January 17, 2008 2:53 PM

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