I demand a recount! Durrrrr!
Meanwhile: Federal Reserve chairman Ben S. Bernanke is hinting at a cut in interest rates — a big one.
Such a bad idea.
"Serious and credible... rumors."
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@2: No shit. Why don't we just cut the interest rate down to zero? The big, monolithic machine of the economy will operate with infinite efficiency! Plus, no more of that icky un-Christian usury.
SLOG ate my post. Damned HTML tags.
"I (heart) Kucinich"
That's quite a mug on that cat.
That's how Scientologists shed those extra Body Thetans?
Is this some sort of state-wide blood drive going on? I've been at work barely two hours, and three people have asked me to donate. Imagine their puppydog frowns when I say, "Sorry, I'm gay."
Ohhh, Dennis, it's been difficult enough to support you through these dark days. I guess your problem is that you are not 'likeable enough'.
the rate cuts are a stupid, unnecessary, thing. bernake is out greenspanning greenspan!
@10 - you cant ice shanahan's kicker... He invented the late ice. You can't out Shanahan Shanahan...
Did you actually read the article about Kucinich? It said "Kucinich alluded to online reports alleging disparities around the state between hand-counted ballots, which tended to favor Sen. Barack Obama, and machine-counted ones that tended to favor Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. He also noted the difference between pre-election polls, which indicated Obama would win, and Clinton's triumph by a 39 percent to 37 percent margin."
I can't post links, but AP is reporting that Forbes Magazine, in a poll based on contraceptive sales, named Denver as the "most lustful" city in the US. You guys in Seattle finished fourth. Sorry Seattleites.
ye gods my head hurts
Dennis Kucinich is not calling for a recount because he thinks that it will alter his standing in the race. He is doing so because he cares deeply about the integrity of this election. It's why he sued the FCC for excluding him from the ABC debates. If i'm not mistaken, Dennis also spoke out about the exclusion of republican candidates as well.
Both parties owe him a debt of gratitude.
RECOUNT THE GOD DAMN BALLOTS.
More rate cuts? Yikes. I wish I could get my employer to pay me in Canadian dollars.
Countrywide was a bad enough mortgage holder, but now we have to be slaves to Bank of America?
Yuck, yuck, and more yuck.
On the plus side, maybe this great new interest rate will allow us to refinance Chez Vel-Duray on a 150 year mortgage, so that they actually pay US to live there!!!!
The Zoo story is FUCKED UP. I know I'm a crazy animal lover, but seriously, how people can treat elephants like such shit is incredible.
St. Louis Zoo is # 8.
"While Mitt Romney has spend close to $3 million..."
Has spend? what caveman is pawing at the keyboard this morning?
re:accidentaly incest...
Damn that would be fucked up.
"Wow you and I are so alike, we get along so well....wait, you're my sister? WTF! DAMNIT!"
Also--wonder how many headline writers were, in the wake of Sir Edmund's demise, wanted to go with the headline:
HILLARY DEAD
@13
That poll only proves that the sex in Denver requires more contraceptives. I'd bet that there are a lot more people in Seattle that have lots of sex and don't need the contraceptives.
I'm trying to decide who the biggest egomaniac in the liberal universe is: Kucinich or Nader? Kucinich... Nader... Kucinich... Nader...
Nope. I can't decide. It will have to be a tie.
Both parties owe him a debt of gratitude.
These kind of statements are why cousins shouldn't be allowed to marry. Can't you Obamatons explain to the Kucinichistas how their ongoing support for this doomed candidate allows the hegemonic powers (my candidate, HILLARY "ASSKICKING" CLINTON) to continue the prevailing oligarchy?
RE: "Sir Edmund Hillary, conquerer of Mount Everest"
The guy does not look a day over 50. AMAZING!
RE:"Six people have come forward with information about the attack"
OK what a bunch of cocks. "Oh you know that brutal attack we saw this morning it was in the paper. Maybe you should go to the police."
College kids today are heartless cockheads!
RE: "Joseph McEnroe and Michele Kristen Anderson pleaded not guilty yesterday"
If I had a nickle for everytime I have heard some dumbass watching the TV say: "What? They're not guilty? How is that? How can they be no guilty?"
They pleaded not guilty you dumbshit.
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I really don't need to see Travolta dry-humping his gym shorts. Ick.
I'm an Obama supporter.
I stood with Dennis Kucinich until it became clear that his campaign was doomed. I don't expect him to win in 2008 and as an american, I have an obligation to turn the page on the Bush administration.
Dennis kucinich represents every american who cares about election integrity. Let's not forget how our current president got where he is.
If hillary won New Hampshire, there should be no concern among anyone about whether or not it's right to RECOUNT THE BALLOTS.
@13: Using birth control sales to take a count of sexual intercourse being had citywide, and then using that "information" to determine the "most lustful" cities in the U.S., is so specious as to be laughable.
How do they count all the times stupid teenagers have sex? How do they count all teh Gay stuff? How do they count the number of times the technical-virginity-preserving girls take it up the butt? How do they count phone sex, cybering, and teledildonics? How do they count the number of times teenage boys wank off to their dads' Playboy and National Geographic collections? How do they count the massaging showerheads?
And most importantly, how does all this bean-counting qualify a city as being "most lustful?"
The Michigan primary could get interesting. Here's why. Michigan, like Washington, has an open primary -- you can vote in either primary (but not both) regardless of how you're registered. The Democratic primary in Michigan is a non-event, because only Hillary and Dodd are on the ticket and the delegates won't be seated anyway. That leaves Democrats free to cross over and game the Republican primary.
There is a history of this sort of thing. When John Engler was running unopposed for governor in 1998, it's thought that Republicans crossed over and voted in the Democratic primary to nominate Geoffrey Fieger, a weak and abrasive candidate, allowing Engler to win in a landslide.
@28,
If anything, it makes Denver the most responsible city. There are plenty of lustful people who are too stupid to use contraceptives.
@6 - the Edmund Hillary photo answers the question as to what it would be like if Jean Genet had joined the Stray Cats.
@30: Not really, unless they added vasectomies, condom sales, and jerk-off parties to the list.
@31 - You win. Thread closed.
Bryce-
Do whatever you want. But realize that to retreat into the language of "recount" is to enter the Ron Paul-esque world of fantasy conspiracy theorists. It makes you and your candidate look like loons. Note that HRC didn't ask for a recount on her third place finish in IA, even though the margin between her and Edwards was an order of magnitude smaller than the one we're talking about.
Armchair statiticians get all in a hot lather whenever anyone talks about Diebold, but the fact remains that armies of Democrats have poured over the Florida and Ohio votes of 2000 and never found anything.
Yes, yes, you can send me 100 links from left wing blogs on the subject, but do you really think that the Democratic Party (and our supporters) would sit idly by if real evidence of systemic fraud existed?
Or are Hillary and George W in cahoots in your universe? Was she having a teen affair with JFK while secretly working for GHW Bush in '62?
Recounts did nothing for Gore in 2000, and nothing Rossi in 2004. But by all means, go right ahead and make your candidate look like a whiny wingnut if it makes you feel better.
Or, Option B, you can focus on NV/SC/FL/etc etc etc and win compelling victories there. Your choice.
Call 911 stupid! Apparently not one of the six witnesses of the attack on a U of W student attempted to call 911 according to newspaper reports. Is this some form of unreasonable fear of the police? Or were they just so preoccupied with themselves that a woman getting beat up was not worth them taking the time to call 911?
Passive Seattle strikes again.
See: Kitty Genovese
Sven-
Iowa was a caucus state, not a primary. A recount is not needed. Perhaps the real problem here is that word "Recount". You're right, it sounds a bit fanatical. What you have to realize, however, is that we wouldn't need to use it if at some point along the way we uttered the word "Audit"
I don't believe for a minute that Hillary Clinton rigged or fixed anything. I'm upset that we treat our election process in nearly the same way news organizations conduct online polls. It's bad enough that we blacklist radical candidates before they ever have a fighting chance...to discount them and their supporters as whiny wingnuts is well, unamerican.
yikes.
I would donate blood, but they don't want my perfectly safe coincidentally queer blood.
Recounts did nothing for Gore in 2000
A statewide recount would have handed the election to Gore.
do you really think that the Democratic Party (and our supporters) would sit idly by if real evidence of systemic fraud existed?
Yes, if they're too cowardly to do anything about it and if they think they can use it to their advantage in the future.
Bryce-
I didn't say all radical candidates are wingnuts. I said that talking about recounts in the context of some vast conspiracy marks one as a wingnut.
You sound like a reasonable person. And I agree that the IA caucus and NH primary were handled in a carnival atmosphere by the media, and that it would be nice if it were not so. I think part of that carnival atmosphere is because the race *is* so close, and many people are looking for a reason to vote one way or the other.
But I'm sorry, I just don't see why NH in particular merits talk of an audit and/or recount. I guess I get frustrated with (what I consider to be) loose talk on the internet about irregularities and conspiracies (see keshmeshi, above) If it's good enough for candidate Obama, the purported victim of any skullduggery, why's it not good enough for the rest of us?
ObRodneyKingStatement: I will of course support whatever fine candidate gets the nod from the Democratic Party process. I'm even starting to get slightly excited that the WA causus may mean something this year.
I love the boy in the crop top behind Travolta.
@ 35 "not one of the six witnesses of the attack on a U of W student attempted to call 911"
This is a young person thing. They have been taught not "snitch" so even when they witness a very violent crime or murder they will not call the cops. There are young people out in the professional world today that know the past murderer of a friend or relative but have not said anything thanks to hip-hop. Fuck Hip Hop.
Re: Sir Edmund Hillary
Note that the Seattle Times (but not KING 5) was too proper to quote Hillary's comments on coming down the mountain: "We knocked the bastard off".
Great picture on BBC website of Hillary wearing a ca that simply says "SIR ED"
I apologize for buying 200 shares of Bank of America today, when I sold my positions in WaMu and Citigroup.
It's a tax loss thing. I do it near market bottoms.
So, if you're kicked out of your house and it's because of BofA, it was my fault.
Bygones ...
@43: I was interested until "but have not said anything thanks to hip-hop." -- Are you just trying to troll, or would you care to seriously argue that point?
I got the "don't snitch" message from other kids in grade school. Hip hop had nothing to do with it.
i got the "you should snitch" message from the benefit of snitching to me; I got in less trouble.
Sam @ 42: Me too. I especially love about 3 minutes in when it looks like he's humping JT. I must say that Travolta was hot 25 years ago. He's doing those isolation moves way better than JLC.
The Perfect clip:
I kept waiting for someone to ejaculate.
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