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<title>Slog - Comments on The Kiss</title>
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<description>This couple in Shanghai... ...was so upset after this video was viewed 15,000 times on YouTube ...that they&apos;re suing the subway workers that videotaped their very public make-out session. Their lawsuit, predictably enough, lead to news stories being written about their case, one of which I stumbled over at the Guardian, which is how I found the video. Thanks to the lawsuit the video has now been viewed--as of this writing--91,631 times. The couple is suing on behalf of all subway users in Shanghai. &quot;Now, every time I walk into a metro station, I feel uncomfortable,&quot; says their lawyer. I...</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:53:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. Poe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Amen on <i>Cloverfield</i>, AKA: <i>Save Beth, The Stupid Bitch Who Nobody Cares About</i>.  OMG, look, she's only on the 39th floor, let's continue this retarded journey and climb up the other building to get her. Make sure to keep that camera stuck to your skull, because lord knows you would given the event. "People are gonna wanna knoowww." About what? Some idiot saving some bitch he fucked once, had a "romantic" train ride with, and then she brought some douchebag to his going away party? Yeah. Fun.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. Poe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c904929</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:58:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. Poe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and I could care less about that couple.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. Poe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c904931</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c904931</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:59:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by justsaying</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"Twilight of the Douchebags" is a *much* better name for this blog than "Slog"...</p>

<p>Actually, it's a more apropos name for "The Stranger", too.</p>]]></description>
<author>justsaying</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c904948</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:15:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It would not surprise me at all to find out that China has much more restrictive public-photography laws than we do. This video would be completely legal in the US, but in China someone may be going to jail.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c904957</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:21:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Don't the Chinese have really strict social rules against pdas?  That would certainly explain why the couple are so embarrassed by this.</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c904980</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:37:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Andy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@5, no. Well, maybe a century ago.</p>]]></description>
<author>Andy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905019</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905019</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:00:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Privacy is a Right.</p>

<p>Not a privilege.</p>

<p>And the couple are right to sue.</p>

<p>Upskirt vids and pics with sound are illegal in this state - that means YOU all you cell phone vid people.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905046</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:16:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Greg</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@7: "Reasonable expectation of privacy" does NOT cover makeout sessions in public transportation. You can't hijack a public space and make it private just by doing something that would ordinarily be done in a private place.</p>]]></description>
<author>Greg</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905140</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:04:43 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Aislinn</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I got in about 40 seconds before I was too bored. Is that all it is, them making out? First of all, why did anyone watch it to begin with? Second of all, who cares? If they have a legal ground to stand on with this, I'm disappointed in laws. </p>

<p>There are almost certainly surveillance cameras in the subway, too, plus the fact that it's a <i>public space</i>, so they reasonably could not expect this to be "private." If you are outside of your house, you have no expectation of privacy when it comes to public displays of affection, or asshattery, or whatever you are doing. Seriously. If you're doing something you wouldn't be okay with other people knowing about, DON'T DO IT IN PUBLIC. Period.</p>

<p>This is much different than up-the-skirt filming - which is violative because it is for one party's sexual gratification without the consent of the filmed party - and I think comparing the two is disingenous. </p>]]></description>
<author>Aislinn</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905144</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:07:17 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The law cares nothing about the intention, only the legal wording.  As you well know, Aislinn.</p>

<p>But, otherwise, good points.  But how can you have private spaces in a country of so many people?</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905218</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:44:49 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gloria</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@9: Well, it's possible there are those out there sexually gratifying themselves to this video.</p>

<p>Taking an upskirt vid goes one step beyond what the subject is consensually sharing with the public. There isn't much more that this couple is hiding, I think. </p>]]></description>
<author>Gloria</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905223</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:46:02 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Dot</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I found the play by play commentary/critique by the people that took the video so much more entertaining than the actual couple on screen.</p>]]></description>
<author>Dot</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905265</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:08:22 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Aislinn</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@10: Very true, and it wouldn't be the first time I was disappointed in laws, by any means. That privacy is difficult to obtain does not put the onus of respecting private moments in public spaces on other people sharing those public spaces.</p>

<p>@11: That is different, and I think you understand how, but to clarify - If you wear a skirt that is "modest" with normal movement and wear, and sit in manners becoming of a lady, then it's reasonable to expect people not to use technology or mirrors or whatever to look up your skirt without your consent. These people are making out in a very public place, and not taking any reasonable steps to keep that private.</p>]]></description>
<author>Aislinn</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905306</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:29:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Rotten666</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Dad, he gonna pork her!</p>

<p>He's not gonna pork her Rusty.</p>]]></description>
<author>Rotten666</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905333</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905333</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:46:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gloria</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@13: The same but better than what I said, yes.  </p>]]></description>
<author>Gloria</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905334</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:48:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Just Some Guy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Aww man, I thought Dan meant he saw a movie actually called "Twilight of the Douchebags".  I was going to ask where that was playing.</p>]]></description>
<author>Just Some Guy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905372</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:06:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by kt</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>pattern recognition</p>]]></description>
<author>kt</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905618</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:22:44 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Anna</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>That's damn funny. The middle part where the people behind the camera are totally laughing at them is great. </p>

<p>One of them says: Are they Beijing-ers? ? (Like Shanghai kids would never be so tacky.) </p>]]></description>
<author>Anna</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905656</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:48:17 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Kristin Bell</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>They obviously have no reasonable expectation of privacy there. C'mon people! They are probably just embarrassed because the subway workers were laughing their asses off at them!</p>]]></description>
<author>Kristin Bell</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/the_kiss#c905934</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:34:59 -0800</pubDate>
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