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Dan,
First sign of a writer in decline is he starts talking about his kid or, worse, quoting his spouse.

Get out and do some reporting!

If you read the linked story, you'll see that Hillary 'deserved' the boos, because she was invoking the usual spooks of 'I am electable, and the other guy is not'. I agree that jeering is low-class, and perhaps self-defeating, but if you will excuse the smarmy expression, "The bitch was asking for it".

Well, 1, he was sitting right next to me when he said it, I thought, "True, I'll toss that up." I couldn't really take credit for it. But I'll leave the house today, I promise.

On further review:

See this comment about 10% down the page:

Actually this is not an accurate report. I just returned home from the dinner, and Hillary was not booed. When she asked who was prepared, isolated voices answered "Obama," but at no time did I hear anything that resembled the impression left by this journalist. It seems sloppy and oddly biased reporting for a Time journalist. If anyone really cares to know the truth, just watch the video of the event. There simply was not notable booing for any candidate.

...or just read the article itself:
"a noise that sounded like a thousand people collectively groaning" is not a boo.

...and if you just keep reading the article itself you'll come to this:

"The second time came a few minutes later when Clinton said: "The there are two big questions for voters in New Hampshire. One is: who will be ready to lead from day one? The second," and here Clinton was forced to pause as boos from the crowd mixed with cheers from her own supporters."

The point is well made, young kids with lots of zeal and little self control are not the best spokes-folks. The Republicans always stuck to their point (ie homos are evil, abortion is evil, Arabs be evil) even if the question was about education or clean air or Jobs. So kids, stick to the good points about Obama, don't mention Clinton.

they were probably saying "oooooooooooobama"

Eh, Hillary deserved it. It's a stupid line. What, Hillary, will YOU be ready to lead this nation on your first day? Or will we have to deal with the type of insane polarization that marked your husband's administration? That polarization isn't her fault, but I can't see a Hillary Clinton presidency being a success. And I just can't get excited about a restoration of the Clinton Family to the White House. That photo of her speech on caucus night surrounded those old-timey Clinton administration folks from the '90s made me queasy, yo.

That said, booing's never polite. But damn it sure would've felt good to do it!

"What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne."

Barack Obama, Oct 2, 2002

Can we take the day off from politics and focus on what's really on the mind of people in Seattle today?The Seahawks! Who's gonna win this hotly contested game? What's the point spread? Will the crowd make a difference? ETC. ETC. ETC.

i'm so totally over obama, he's more overexposed than paris hilton. and his supporters are driving me nuts. i was undecided before, but now i know who i am not voting for.

'obnoxious' is so on point.

have some fucking class.

ps: obama supporters are going to lose it for the dems in 08'.

Booooooo-urns

Saying the 'dems' means nothing - or are you referring to the implications of supreme court nominations?
i guess you have to consider priorities.

The War in Iraq.
or
The Kennedy swing vote.

The corrupt lawyers and acedemics who lied to us about this war should be held accountable for the loss of American lives in the middle east, perhaps with something as impactful as a death sentence. Let the whichever court decide.

In presidential history, a lot of attention seems to be paid to the period between the election and the inauguration, especially when you're talking about a popular president. My impression is that this is considered a time for the incoming president to prepare himself for what's coming, bring himself up to date on the issues, lay out a plan for the first days/months/years in office, and select a cabinet. Why is it that Clinton will be so much better at this than anyone else? Maybe she's the best qualified to take office at the beginning of November 2008, but I'm not buying that none of the other candidates will be able to benefit from three months of prep time.

@2 - As I have asked before without reply, retort, riposte or justification: if Hillary is "the bitch" - by what pejorative term are we to label her male counterparts? Presidential politics are rough enough minus this woman-hating classlessness that on several levels is equal to racism. Increase up.

Terry, watch the speech; HRC starts around the hour mark. She gets cheers, cheers, cheers throughout--the single smattering of boos comes when she does the "hoping for change, demanding change" line, which is a direct dis at Obama and Edwards. If any line at a fundraising dinner is likely to draw boos, it's one that attacks other candidates. Meanwhile, watch Obama: The crowd goes insane.

Dan, please. Don't assume these were kids unless you want to produce the evidence. That dinner cost $100+ a head to get in, and I doubt the booers were much under 35.

@17 - Because she's married to a guru who's been there, done that.

If Obama is the Democratic nominee a few people booing Hillary Clinton during a NH primary campaign speech 10 months earlier aren't going to make or break his chances of winning. I doubt if anyone will even remember. Get a grip.

the use of 'dems' as in reference to the democrats. i'm not sure if we're in the same context? but...

'it' in reference to the primary election. i might have to abandon all hope for a democrat to win the upcoming presidency if obama gets the nomination. good luck against huckabee.

not a naysayer. just a realist. i hope '08 proves me wrong.

ps: '08' as in reference to the 2008 presidential election (US).

I know. This is completely shameless. It would be like, say, obnoxious supporters spreading rumors that your candidate's opponent is actually a Muslim.

@20,

If that's what she's relying on, it's bunk. If she gets elected, she should be running things.

He has a good point. Hm.

Was Dean setting the same tone that Obama is? 'Cause everything I get from the Obama campaign is far removed from obnoxious.

If Clinton was booed, well, so what? What cowardly, whiny, snivelling little turds. There is not a single American politician who could last for five minutes in the British parliment, where they would not only be forced to answer embarassing questions in a coherent fashion, but have to do so while being shouted down by the opposition. Politics is tough... or, at least, it ought to be. If the cowardly Clintonistas can't handle a few boos, how are they going to handle the "terraists"? What a simple minded cackle of thin-skinned wannabes. Yet one more reason to ditch the... well, you know.

No, the media and Democratic party simultaneously deciding to bury the popular Dean in favor of more neutral John Kerry was what killed Howard Dean's campaign.

@26 -- uh, didn't that already happen during Clinton's impeachment/investigation? British Parliament regularly asks its members about what they do with cigars and vaginas?

21: what you said. people don't even seem to remember how badly mccain was floundering over the summer. now he's "making a comeback." and he looked dead not a few short months ago.

Well, whether or not it was actually booing rather than, say, grumbling, Terry's right that Obama supporters shouldn't boo Clinton. That's something Clinton supporters do. Or did at the Nevada debate, anyway. And we need to be better than them, the way he's better than she is. Keep it high road.