not that clinton needs my defense, but hello?!?! when you are stressed and focused on important issues, and someone asks a very personally insulting question, you just might have an emotional reaction. that doesn't mean you don't care about something else less or more... it's that you have feelings.

but it's all about the spin. clinton's group would probably do best to leave this alone... let jr's insensitivity speak for itself (will help clinton), and let the blogs defend her. she does better when she's no attacking or defending, but when she's stating her case.

And they say sexism is dead.

I think that's funny.

but i think by "appearance" he probably meant poll-wise, not her physical attributes. that just wouldn't even make sense.

regardless of what he meant, this is creepy. enough with the "breakdown" already. just lay off her, dude.

The Obama campaign should be rethinking his involvement.

No shit. He's still trying to bitch out of an apology like he did nothing wrong. Asshole.

And @11... The Daily Show last night (yes, I'm watching, even though he's a scab, I can't help it), showed a montage of prominent male politicians actually crying. Like, sobbing/bawling as opposed to voice breaking/possible tears. It was quick so I didn't catch who everyone was, but George HW Bush was definitely there. So, politicians do cry in public, and there isn't always a media shitstorm about it.

All thos focusing on one "emotional" moment for HRC is sexist bs.

"Laugh and the world laughs with you,
Cry and you win New Hampshire."

Whatever it takes, Hillary, just do it. If people call you "lachrymose" that's because they have a decent vocabulary. If they call you a "bitch" remind them of W's mother who has pretty well trail-blazed that path.

well whatever jj,jr meant by "appearance", it's inexcusable and i agree he should just shut up about the incident already. and wtf is anyone from jesse jackson's family doing in obama's campaign?

asshole bush tears up regularly. so does his asshole dad.

asshole romney has done it multiple times in this campaign.

this is just a preview of the hell we're in for in the summer & fall.

Do you have any comment on the response of John Edwards to HRC's "moment?" You've been silent about how your man reacted.

Honestly, I think JJ himself is jealous of how likable Obama is now compared to when JJ was running in the 80s. I also think that JJ has some issues with Obama being half black, not playing the old civil rights card like he's trained his kid to play, and not personally asking JJ to help out his campaign. I think it was a good decision to not ask Sharpton and Jackson for any help. Frankly, they don't think before they speak. This isn't the 70's anymore and quite frankly they scare white voters as well as black voters, a good number of them who think the two of them are jokes in today's time.

1) nobody thinks she started bawling.

2) but can you imagine if any candidate was actually bawling what it would be like?

i think both of those still stand. but if a candidate did cry, i (really!) will totally change my view on that. seriously.

but i'd also like to reiterate that i do not think what JR did was appropriate, or that it will help obama any. i'm just trying to be clear in my criticism.

And @26, well, the original question referenced her hair. It was from a woman who basically asked "how do you do it, getting up and looking upbeat and having perfectly coifed hair and appearance, every day on the campaign trail? It must be tough..."

All I can say is that this is the stupidest debate and/or "scandal" that I've ever had the misfortune to witness.

But why would Obama be associating himself with the son of a man who called NYC "Hymietown"? Bad move...

If she wasn't hammin' it up, I'll eat my hat. She's a faker. And yet, still scads more qualified for the office than Obama.

The whole Edwards thing REALLY rubbed me the wrong way-- and not because of what he said, but because of how her people spun it.

HRC was all high-and-mighty when she thought she was gonna win, but after Iowa her true colors came out. She ripped off them gloves and was ready for battle. She laid into Obama and Edwards BIG TIME-- she got nasty and got personal.

HRC threw the first punch.

And then, when it appeared that it might not be working-- that she might not win in New Hampshire, that people might not like her-- she stages a mini-sobfest.

WHAT?!

Obama was, like usual, the bigger person-- he didn't even go there, didn't engage the media in dirty politics.

Edwards, however, dove right in. His comments, while being snide and perhaps a little below-the-belt, were in no way SEXIST and, honestly, she deserved it.

(Plus, she had just kicked him in the groin umpteen times... Wasn't it time for him to get a swing in?)

She was the one, after all, who instigated the whole "let's fight dirty" thing at the New Hampshire debate.

Look, she's asking us to trust her with the highest job in the country, arguably in the world. When you're the president, you're going to get tired. Cranky. People aren't going to always like you. In fact, a lot of people are going to hate you. You're going to have to make crappy decisions that will make people say crappy things about you. You're not always going to get your way and things won't always go the way you would like them to.

HOWEVER...

You can't fucking cry about it. At least not in public. Seriously. Had HRC been a dude, and had he TEARED UP in PUBLIC because people said some mean things/it was looking like he wasn't going to win, he would be DONE AND OVER.

Why is there the implication that, since she's a girl, she's expected to cry (chicks are EMOTIONAL, dig it?) and that, because Edwards criticized it, that he's some misogynistic prick? So me, that's the real sexism-- the fact that we are all supposed to think that she-is-woman-hear-her-roar but at the same time only handle her with our special lacy gloves on 'cause she be fragile and he FEELINGS might get hurt.

The double standard is bullshit.

(On a side note, if I hear one more time about how HRC is the first woman anything, I'm going to puke. Sure, it's "historical." But I'd say a BLACK PRESIDENT is far more historical that a white woman who is a part of the establishment.)

I don't hold HRC to a higher standard than anyone else, but I do hold her to the same standard. I wouldn't want my president, male or female, crying when they get stressed out. (In public, at least... I don't give a shit if Bushie cries into his pillow like a little boy every night... Just don't do it at a press conference. Hold your shit together, you know?...)

If you can't handle sleepless nights, endless meetings and press events, people saying mean things about you, and s shitton of stress then, well, maybe this isn't the job for you.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080109/D8U2KIGG2.html

hmm

He was playing the race card.

With talk of Katrina and SC being 45% black, that's all this was about. But Obama is a different kind of politician, right?

Let me get this straight: you're complaining that Clinton having young people stand behind her in NH is a "fabrication"? What planet are you from?

The rabid reaction from the Obama supporters today is really pathetic.

And to follow Erica's logic closely, given that Clinton alone among Democratic candidates is taking PAC money, is Clinton also personally culpable for the misdeeds of, say, the oil companies oiling her campaign coffers? If so, perhaps it was the price of gas that caused her tears.

Now, on the other hand, Clinton herself personally authorized flat-out lying about Obama's record on choice, a monstrously opportunistic misdeed of far greater magnitude than the statement of some errant Obama supporter.

Again, it pains me to say this but Erica is right. STFU!

The media has completely blown this out of proportion and now all the paranoid schizo's are coming up with conspiracy theories . Get over it and get back to the issues...like do either of them have a REAL science policy? I have yet to see this from any of them, although comparing Hillary's site to Obama's she seems to have a better thought out policy.