Slog - Comments on Re: Will Washington Matter? http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter Yesterday, in our online poll, an overwhelming number of Slog readers said no. Today, in a similarly unscientific poll of D.C. insiders, an overwhelming number of politicos said, essentially, yes. Even more interesting: The percentages of "yes" and "no" answers in these two polls are almost exactly reversed. Slog readers believe, by a 62-38 majority, that Washington State's Feb. 9 Democratic caucuses won't matter. Insiders in D.C. believe, by a 60-36 majority, that the Democratic nomination fight won't be settled on Feb. 5 and therefore Washington's Feb. 9 caucuses will matter. From a write-up of the insiders' poll: Some don’t... Copyright 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:30:55 -0800 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:25:37 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by elenchos Unscientific polling data is useless unless you know the respondents' astrological signs.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902560 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902560 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:37:47 -0800 Comment by laughing my ass off These "facts" are entirely useless to sloggers.

]]> laughing my ass off http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902562 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902562 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:39:49 -0800 Comment by TheMisanthrope Isn't the bigger question, "Do we care?"

When you're choosing being which douchebag should go up against whatever turd sandwich the other side picks...well...its kind of hard to care about the caucuses.

]]> TheMisanthrope http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902564 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902564 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:41:01 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Pisces!

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902568 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902568 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:42:25 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty All I know for sure is that I'll be sitting out the Feb. 5 "caucus" in Colorado. It's "non-binding," which is another way of saying it's a complete waste of time. At least your caucus means something.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902577 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902577 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:50:26 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Slog readers are always right. Why would anybody question that?

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902580 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902580 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:55:33 -0800 Comment by elenchos Because that's just how Aries' are, that's why.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902589 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902589 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:59:15 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Aquarius, but you knew that.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902681 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902681 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:57:37 -0800 Comment by Washington Yes, absolutely. No candidate will score a knock-out on Super Tuesday so the nomination will still be up for grabs.
Also, and more importantly, Washington has the highest delegate prize following Super Tuesday. The nation will be looking at our results to find out if any candidate gets a bump or bash following super Tuesday.
Remember to vote Edwards.

]]> Washington http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902731 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902731 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:25:35 -0800 Comment by unPC Washington has the biggest delegate prize following Super Tuesday -- WTF?

1. Suspect Texas, Ohio, Penn., EACH have more than Washington State. Also Feb. 12th DC/Md/VA has more than Wash. state.

2. On Feb. 9th our returns reported Saturday night about 8 pm East Coast time are not going to play in any media cycle. By Monday it'll be old news and mixed in with Maine, Lousiana.

3. Yes, we will have our share of influence, we won't be playing a huge role. Note those insiders weren't saying WAshington State would pay large role, only that it will be a delegate contest after 2/5.

4. Here's the scedule after Florida:

February
1
Maine Republican primary

5
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Georgia
Idaho Democratic primary
Illinois
Kansas Democratic caucus
Massachusetts
Minnesotta
Missouri
New Jersey
New Mexico Democratic primary
New York
North Dakota
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Utah

9
Kansas Republican caucus
Louisiana
Washington

10
Maine Democratic primary

12
District of Columbia
Maryland
Virginia


19
Hawaii Democratic primary
Wisconsin

March
4
Ohio
Rhode Island
Texas
Vermont

9
Wyoming Democratic primary

11
Mississippi

April
22
Pennsylvania

May
6
Indiana
North Carolina


13
Nebraska
West Virginia

20
Kentucky
Oregon

27
Idaho Republican primary

June
3
Montana
New Mexico Republican primary
South Dakota

August
Aug. 25-28
Democratic National Convention — Denver, CO

]]> unPC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902863 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902863 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:53:24 -0800 Comment by Jenny Durkan, Washington State Chair Edwards for President John Edwards has always thought Washington matters -- and has been doing caucus training and recruiting longer than any of the other candidates. Please attend your caucus and support him.

On issues that matter in the Northwest, he is the one that stands out.

-- Edwards is opposed to more nuclear reactors and more nuclear waste. Clinton and Obama both support building more nuclear power plants.

-- Edwards had the first universal healthcare plan. Obama's plan leaves millions uninsured.

-- Edwards has never taken money from PAC's and lobbyists. Obama and Clinton have both taken special interest PAC money.

-- Edwards has a plan to get all combat troops out of Iraq during his first year as President.

Prove the pundits wrong. Join us on February 9 and caucus for real change. Vote John Edwards.

]]> Jenny Durkan, Washington State Chair Edwards for President http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902978 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c902978 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:45:33 -0800 Comment by Cato Say Obama wins the Caucus and Clinton wins the Primary in this state, Clinton will receive all the delegates from Washington State.

The Democratic Party caucus is a feel good dog & pony show and has no real influence on the outcome or the # of delegates representing Washington State (this will be decided by the Primary on Feb. 19th).

You may as well crash the GOP Caucus where the results decide 50% of the delegates (with the other 50% chosen by the Primary).

]]> Cato http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c903042 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c903042 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:24:09 -0800 Comment by N in Seattle Cato, you couldn't possibly be more wrong.

The primary is the meaningless event for Democrats. The February 9 precinct caucuses are the first of three steps that will eventually choose 51 of the state's 97 delegates to the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

If you don't believe me, perhaps you'd like to take a glance at the first page of this summary of the Washington Democrats' delegate plan

]]> N in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c903111 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/re_will_washington_matter#c903111 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:25:37 -0800