Sounds really fun. I saw him do a comedy/music peformance at Laffhole last year and it was off the charts good - the most original act I have ever seen.
FEWER!
I know this is off topic but where can I get that shirt??
Lloyd: Totally, but I felt dumb about critiquing the grammar of his t-shirt while praising the success of his art.
Morgan: If you can't find it anywhere else, go to B-Bam! and make your own. (And please, use "fewer" instead of "less.")
I hear ya. I'm no grammar king, but confusing less for fewer always sounds stupid...on YOUR T-SHIRT. Derp.
Ugh. That is some serious Hot Topic shit. Right there. That. Whole thing.
i think the "less" is appropriate because it sounds and looks right... plus it's the sort of mistake a robot trying to be human would make. or maybe it's the mistake a human trying to be a robot would make.
either way, i like fewer less than less.
My new thing is learning grammar from the Slog. I have no idea how fewer differs from less. Help me!
One way or the other, the shirt IS making a statement.
Eric F (is this THE Eric F, a man I consider a grammarian par excellence?): Here's my cobbled-together understanding of the fewer-less distinction.
Fewer is used if the subject is something tangible, something that can be physical counted: Fewer miles.
Less is used when your subject is non-tangible: Less distance.
Hope this helps. I didn't go to college, only drama school, but I've read a few books about grammar since then.
As for the shirt, it would also work if you de-pluralized the nouns: Less Human, More Robot, which reads like a whimsical description of the man wearing the shirt.
Just to clarify: it doesn't have to be tangible to use fewer, just countable: fewer ideas, fewer decisions, fewer urges.
A good rule is, if it's plural, use fewer (fewer humans). If singular, use less (less human, less water, less yogurt, etc.)
Thank you, Irena, that's much clearer. (I doubted my choice of the word "tangible" as soon as I hit post...)
i thought charles told us we don't need to care about grammar or spelling in order to be effective communicators.
HELL WRONG WITCHOO?! PO-LIICE!
Yeah, given that I was originally hired by the Stranger as its first proofreader, uh, I maybe should know some of that stuff. Standards were lower back then, of course. If you could spell cunnilingus you were in.
Is that the 9-11 explosion on his head?
Specifically it's discrete and continuous.
Discrete means things that are indivisible and have definite boundaries. Like people. It isn't logical to have half a person. Discrete. More people. Fewer people, not less people. Or things that are still themselves if you cut them in half. Half a pencil is still one pencil. Many pencils, not much pencils.
Continuous things are infinitely divisible. Liquids like water or yogurt. Intangibles like love. Less love, not fewer love. I give you much love, not I give you many love.
Love is not, by nature, discrete. You can't have too much of it. Friends are discrete; you can't have too many of them.
"He also occasionally mispronounces words for no particular reason." That sounds like Dina Martina. Are they friends? Have these seen each other's respective acts? In any case, Martina's also got that whole mispronunciation thing down to a science.
Just a heads up that the show is actually called DISINFORMATION, not DISTORTION, and it's extremely fun.
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