Yeah, "Ravaged" and those Jim Crow "Whites Only" signs really cramped the style of Blacks in the South, gave THEM a real complex (and eventually equal civil rights)
In the meantime, yes, there is a problem with this. Renewal of vows, especially exploited with a slogan like that, reminds me of "born again virginity". And yes, homosexuals ought to have every right to make complete assholes of themselves just like heterosexuals who might decide, on a whim (walk-ins welcome) to up and renew their vows. Who knows, though? Maybe with gay couples, the vows they take the first time won't, you know, wear off.
As long as we, as a culture, have to put up with stupid ideas like marriage, there's no justifiable reason for gender discrimination.
(Seriously, didn't those folks have a teleministry somewhere, once upon a time?)
If you had half a fucking brain, you would have followed up and realized that 90% of the wedding chapels in Vegas cater in some fashion to gay and lesbian couples who want to renew/exchange vows. Of course, there is no marriage liscense. However, you can go through a commitment ceremony.
I know, because my man and myself did it YEARS ago, and have had both lesbian and gay friends of our do it as well.
Again, Mr. Savage demonstrates what a cum soaked brain thinks like...pure crap.
Go back to giving advice on how to best stick your cock up your own ass.
The only way this post makes sense is if Dan & Terry tried to reup there and were rejected, or he has some other way of knowing that they do not have services for gay couples. Is that what happened? Otherwise it just seems like their ad is tailored to their major demographic.
Oh Ecce - thank God! I've been so worried about you! After that unfortunate incident in the lingerie department at the Auburn Sears, I thought you were "up river" again for sure! But then your parole office called, and your public defender - no one could find you! I searched everywhere: The Tacoma bus station, that rest stop by Fort Lewis - everywhere!!!!
But I do worry about these delusions you have: Ecce, you know that "your man" doesn't exist, right? You're not even consistent when you talk about him - sometimes he's a NASCAR driver, other times he's a doctor. Once he was an astronaut. Another time he was an eastern European porn star!
Sweetie, you don't need to try to be anyone you aren't! We love you despite your many flaws. Just be Ecce: Sweet, sad little Ecce. The little old man in the studio apartment in Auburn who loves sequins, and rainbows and his Rod McKuen records. That's enough for us.
Posted by
catalina vel-duray |
January 12, 2008 7:50 AM
I guess I don't think the billboard applies to us... as we're not spouses, not legally. And while I'm sure the wedding industry, as those chapels in Vegas like to call themselves, would take our money, I don't see the point in making or renewing vows that are legally meaningless.
The renewing of ALL vows is legally meaningless. It can be emotionally important. To suggest that you can't renew your vows, when indeed you can, is just intellectually dishonest. That is of course, if you and your BFF actually exchanged vows to one another. If you did, then you can renew them. If you didn't, then you are just whining about not being able to get married, when, even if it was legal, probably wouldn't because of the whole "Marriage is too conventional, and I am DAN FUCKING SAVAGE!".
Hence the fake outrage is entirely misplaced.
Did you introduce your kid to Remington Steele? He could be a HUGE role model...
To be honest Ecce, my main issue with your approaches on Slog is like many screechers, you remain in the blog closet. What you have to say would have a whole lot more credibility if you used your name. But like most screechers you don't. That means your opinion to me means exactly dick. Nevertheless this is the US of A and we're ALL entitled to our opinions, even when in hiding.
I've been on both sides of this issue and still to this day go back and forth a bit between the good of civil unions vs. marriage. Of course I want marriage for all of us but how we get there should be up for discussion. My partner and I have decided that we'll take what we can get every step of the way. You can look us up on the Secretary of State's website if you like. That public statement, along with thousands along with us makes a bigger statement than you can ever pound out on random blogs under anonymous names.
Your personal bomb throwing is taken with a laugh instead of seriously because you can't step into the light. In my opinion that makes you a closeted chickenshit.
Posted by
Dave Coffman |
January 12, 2008 11:34 AM
As much as I hate to admit it, I essentially agree with ecce's opinion on this subject. I am currently single so this billboard doesn't apply to me either. Therefore I ignore it. I ignore all sorts of advertisements for businesses and products I wouldn't dream of spending money on. I wouldn't venture into a Wal-Mart at gunpoint since they are an evil right wing company, but I don't have a problem with their right to advertise. And I literally change the channel when those TV commercials for that nasal spray with the talking boogers and that check-cashing ripoff place with the people dressed like retarded insects come on. But those ads are the price of our right to free speech. And for the record, I support full marriage equality as much as anyone here, but I don't find it offensive that a Vegas wedding chapel uses a hetero couple in its ads. Let's lighten up and not look for political statements where they don't exist.
That said, ecce, you seem really, really obsessed with Dan Savage and his personal life. WTF?? I normally ignore your typically asinine posts, but you're starting to creep me out, especially when you mention his kid. Get some help--you really need it.
Dan Savage wrote a book about his decision to marry Terry. So he doesn't see himself as too crazy or unconventional for marriage. Mr. Ecce Homo would seem to be more invested in Dan Savage's "edgy" persona than Dan Savage ever has been.
I think Mr. Homo is just jealous. Savage gets to have a normal, healthy, boring family life and some fun every once in a while too. Reading Mr. Homo's comments, it's clear that his definition of family life doesn't allow for any adults-only fun ever.
He's just jealous.
Posted by
Gay People Suck |
January 12, 2008 12:40 PM
I just think that one person shouldn't speak for all gay people, or gay parents.
Kudos to Dan for not bringing his kid to Vegas. To be honest, that is better than many of the het couples pushing sleeping infants in strollers around the casinos at 1 AM. I give credit where credit is due.
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And the problem is?
Who you callin' faggot, BOY? Gonna hafta come fuck yo' ass up good, mo'fo.
Well, there should be no problem with the vow renewals.
ew. This is one case in which straight privilege yields cheesasterousness. But then when doesn't it.
hey, if that billboard is supposed to make me want to get hitched it ain't workin'. look at those two. ugh.
Man, Savage, you have got a *MAJOR* complex about this stuff. Seriously.
Yeah, "Ravaged" and those Jim Crow "Whites Only" signs really cramped the style of Blacks in the South, gave THEM a real complex (and eventually equal civil rights)
Those people actually look familiar. Hmm ....
In the meantime, yes, there is a problem with this. Renewal of vows, especially exploited with a slogan like that, reminds me of "born again virginity". And yes, homosexuals ought to have every right to make complete assholes of themselves just like heterosexuals who might decide, on a whim (walk-ins welcome) to up and renew their vows. Who knows, though? Maybe with gay couples, the vows they take the first time won't, you know, wear off.
As long as we, as a culture, have to put up with stupid ideas like marriage, there's no justifiable reason for gender discrimination.
(Seriously, didn't those folks have a teleministry somewhere, once upon a time?)
If I kissed you where it's sore, would you feel better... or feel nothing at all?
I'm not sure Dan's limber enough to kiss where it's sore.
Are you trying to say they wouldn't take your money? I find that hard to believe.
Actually Dan,
If you had half a fucking brain, you would have followed up and realized that 90% of the wedding chapels in Vegas cater in some fashion to gay and lesbian couples who want to renew/exchange vows. Of course, there is no marriage liscense. However, you can go through a commitment ceremony.
I know, because my man and myself did it YEARS ago, and have had both lesbian and gay friends of our do it as well.
Again, Mr. Savage demonstrates what a cum soaked brain thinks like...pure crap.
Go back to giving advice on how to best stick your cock up your own ass.
The only way this post makes sense is if Dan & Terry tried to reup there and were rejected, or he has some other way of knowing that they do not have services for gay couples. Is that what happened? Otherwise it just seems like their ad is tailored to their major demographic.
Oh Ecce - thank God! I've been so worried about you! After that unfortunate incident in the lingerie department at the Auburn Sears, I thought you were "up river" again for sure! But then your parole office called, and your public defender - no one could find you! I searched everywhere: The Tacoma bus station, that rest stop by Fort Lewis - everywhere!!!!
But I do worry about these delusions you have: Ecce, you know that "your man" doesn't exist, right? You're not even consistent when you talk about him - sometimes he's a NASCAR driver, other times he's a doctor. Once he was an astronaut. Another time he was an eastern European porn star!
Sweetie, you don't need to try to be anyone you aren't! We love you despite your many flaws. Just be Ecce: Sweet, sad little Ecce. The little old man in the studio apartment in Auburn who loves sequins, and rainbows and his Rod McKuen records. That's enough for us.
Gay vows are eternal; het vows expire. That is all you need to know.
Oh, ecce. I love you!
I guess I don't think the billboard applies to us... as we're not spouses, not legally. And while I'm sure the wedding industry, as those chapels in Vegas like to call themselves, would take our money, I don't see the point in making or renewing vows that are legally meaningless.
Dan,
The renewing of ALL vows is legally meaningless. It can be emotionally important. To suggest that you can't renew your vows, when indeed you can, is just intellectually dishonest. That is of course, if you and your BFF actually exchanged vows to one another. If you did, then you can renew them. If you didn't, then you are just whining about not being able to get married, when, even if it was legal, probably wouldn't because of the whole "Marriage is too conventional, and I am DAN FUCKING SAVAGE!".
Hence the fake outrage is entirely misplaced.
Did you introduce your kid to Remington Steele? He could be a HUGE role model...
To be honest Ecce, my main issue with your approaches on Slog is like many screechers, you remain in the blog closet. What you have to say would have a whole lot more credibility if you used your name. But like most screechers you don't. That means your opinion to me means exactly dick. Nevertheless this is the US of A and we're ALL entitled to our opinions, even when in hiding.
I've been on both sides of this issue and still to this day go back and forth a bit between the good of civil unions vs. marriage. Of course I want marriage for all of us but how we get there should be up for discussion. My partner and I have decided that we'll take what we can get every step of the way. You can look us up on the Secretary of State's website if you like. That public statement, along with thousands along with us makes a bigger statement than you can ever pound out on random blogs under anonymous names.
Your personal bomb throwing is taken with a laugh instead of seriously because you can't step into the light. In my opinion that makes you a closeted chickenshit.
As much as I hate to admit it, I essentially agree with ecce's opinion on this subject. I am currently single so this billboard doesn't apply to me either. Therefore I ignore it. I ignore all sorts of advertisements for businesses and products I wouldn't dream of spending money on. I wouldn't venture into a Wal-Mart at gunpoint since they are an evil right wing company, but I don't have a problem with their right to advertise. And I literally change the channel when those TV commercials for that nasal spray with the talking boogers and that check-cashing ripoff place with the people dressed like retarded insects come on. But those ads are the price of our right to free speech. And for the record, I support full marriage equality as much as anyone here, but I don't find it offensive that a Vegas wedding chapel uses a hetero couple in its ads. Let's lighten up and not look for political statements where they don't exist.
That said, ecce, you seem really, really obsessed with Dan Savage and his personal life. WTF?? I normally ignore your typically asinine posts, but you're starting to creep me out, especially when you mention his kid. Get some help--you really need it.
Dan Savage wrote a book about his decision to marry Terry. So he doesn't see himself as too crazy or unconventional for marriage. Mr. Ecce Homo would seem to be more invested in Dan Savage's "edgy" persona than Dan Savage ever has been.
I think Mr. Homo is just jealous. Savage gets to have a normal, healthy, boring family life and some fun every once in a while too. Reading Mr. Homo's comments, it's clear that his definition of family life doesn't allow for any adults-only fun ever.
He's just jealous.
I am not obsessed with anyone.
I just think that one person shouldn't speak for all gay people, or gay parents.
Kudos to Dan for not bringing his kid to Vegas. To be honest, that is better than many of the het couples pushing sleeping infants in strollers around the casinos at 1 AM. I give credit where credit is due.
Dan Savage is Ecce Homo.
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