Slog - Comments on Clintonistas Ready For Their Date With the Washington Caucus http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t Posted by Ryan S. Jackson "It's been a great day, but this contest is going to be decided state by state by state... what happens in the Washington caucus is going to count." King County Executive Ron Sims was speaking before a group of roughly 35 Hillary Clinton supporters who had turned out for this afternoon's caucus training, held in a Machinists Union hall in the deepest regions of the South Park neighborhood. Those in attendance might have been getting over the fact that repairs to the South Park bridge had led to a twisting detour through south Seattle before... Copyright 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:30:09 -0800 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:30:33 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Will in Seattle Neat.

Today someone from the Obama campaign doorbelled me.

Choices, choices - go with the campaign that got more delegates (Obama) or go with the one that has been involved in insider politics for 35+ years (Clinton).

Hmm, wonder how Edwards will do?

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903464 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903464 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:31:19 -0800 Comment by unPC hey we all love Obama but we all aren't drinking the kool aid -- Here's the delegate scorecard:

Clinton 210, Obama 123.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/

]]> unPC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903475 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903475 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:57:26 -0800 Comment by karst How about going with the candidate who can grab independents and doesn't poll worse than the generic democrat in polls?

http://www.wa-democrats.org/index.php?page=display&id=245

]]> karst http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903478 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903478 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:18:37 -0800 Comment by Gitai So are they training them on the same voter suppression tactics that Clinton's team used in Nevada?

Also, the Culinary Union's endorsement just became worthless. If you can't deliver the votes, why bother courting you?

]]> Gitai http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903479 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903479 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:20:20 -0800 Comment by go clinton I was there all day today. If it seemed low energy towards the end it was mainly because most of us were becoming tired after having called Nevada and Washington voters all morning... a 8 am start is early for a Saturday, but it worked! Go Clinton!

]]> go clinton http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903485 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903485 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:29:33 -0800 Comment by Big Sven WiS@1:

The problem with posting essentially the same exact thing on three separate threads (as you did regarding the delegate count) is that when your comment is found to be in fact incorrect (as yours was), you look 3x less credible.

Better luck next time!

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903486 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903486 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:35:52 -0800 Comment by watcher I was there too... by the end of the day there were about 70 people there!

And what's with the "suppression techniques" crap? Since when can you hold a caucus where it's most convenient for your candidate of choice? bullshit.

]]> watcher http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903487 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903487 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:41:29 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt @7--Watcher. Read what went down in NV. It's slimy and not befitting a Democrat. Of course, seeing that the Clintons are behind it doesn't surprise me. It's a shame, really.

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903488 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903488 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:58:46 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Whoops. Now the NV Dems are backtracking. WiS is probably right about the count.

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903489 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903489 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:59:55 -0800 Comment by karst Yeah, you'd never think a campaign with an advisor who specializes in union busting would ever have anything to do with suppressing union vote. Gosh!

]]> karst http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903492 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903492 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:05:31 -0800 Comment by Mike of Renton Of course Sen. Margarita Moneytree was there. Corrupt minds think alike.

]]> Mike of Renton http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903496 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903496 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:24:53 -0800 Comment by eclexia As far as I know, "Clintonista" was a term invented by Dick Morris about 8 years back. It's used by people who believe every trumped-up rumor about the Clintons, from Whitewater to gun-running. It doesn't really make me happy to see it here.

]]> eclexia http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903501 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903501 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:42:00 -0800 Comment by Anon @3 Did you mean to link to the straw poll results?

]]> Anon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903502 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903502 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:47:17 -0800 Comment by unPC The spin is amazing.

Going to court -- to ask a judge if the voting system violates your rights -- is now "voter suppression techniques."

What sanctimonious bullshit.


]]> unPC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903503 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903503 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:48:51 -0800 Comment by annie Nobody at my caucus site better try to pull that "present votes" bullshit. Lame! Maybe I'll photocopy and highlight this New York Times article just in case.

]]> annie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903504 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903504 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:53:36 -0800 Comment by Mike of Renton @14

So filing a lawsuit is now "asking a judge"? Pot and kettle.

]]> Mike of Renton http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903505 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903505 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:54:57 -0800 Comment by Mike of Renton Annie, I think the "present" votes bs might be the least of the problems.

]]> Mike of Renton http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903507 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903507 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:58:54 -0800 Comment by Will in Fremont According to CNN's main website, Obama has 2 more delegates than Clinton on a national level.

Booyaa!

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

]]> Will in Fremont http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903520 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903520 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:46:39 -0800 Comment by Will is an Idiot Total Delegates:
Clinton 210
Obama 123

]]> Will is an Idiot http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903526 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903526 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:18:31 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

What a bunch of fuckin' crybabies. I guarantee you, we Clinton supporters won't be such touchy grumpy douches if she loses in SC.

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903543 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903543 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:49:24 -0800 Comment by Big Sven Just to be clear: I'm not talking about annie or Will in Seattle or elenchos or any of the other sane people. I'm talking about the kind of oversensitive under-contextuals who would, for instance, quote the dailykos blog of a paranoid Obama supporter.

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903544 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903544 2008 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:51:55 -0800 Comment by I heart Big Sven Nice one Sven...

What is with Obama supporters and their inability to lose gracefully?

If you keep thinking you are winning, you'll continue to lose.

]]> I heart Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903586 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903586 2008 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:44:35 -0800 Comment by Shawn Fassett Hey Annie, maybe you should take a look at this snappy NY Times article (since you are so fond of "facts").

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/vote-polls/NH.html

People that support people THINK they are actually voting for Bill Clinton (the return.)

I wish I could find an older poll (from the fall) that asked GOP voters who they supported and Obama placed 3rd or 4th with the GOP. If the Democrats are going to clearly win (remember there are more Katherine Harris & Ken Blackwell's out there), we will need the independents and Republicans that Obama will pull in. Clinton will NEVER have the support of the GOP base.

]]> Shawn Fassett http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903662 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903662 2008 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:08:33 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways Yes, Jim Kainber is "buoyant".

(Hi, Jim, if you're reading this...)

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903893 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/01/clintonistas_ready_for_their_date_with_t#c903893 2008 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:30:33 -0800