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Tuesday, January 8, 2008

Biggest Fairy Tale Ever?

posted by on January 8 at 13:17 PM

Bill Clinton on the attack against the media:

And the media swinging back:

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The desperation in the Clinton camp is beginning to stink. You would think that their long years in the limelight and under the microscope would have prepared them a little better.

Posted by gnossos | January 8, 2008 1:30 PM
2

joe scarborough is such a total dilf

Posted by Peter | January 8, 2008 1:35 PM
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wow, hmmm..interesting. STILL VOTING FOR HILLARY.

Posted by voting for hillary | January 8, 2008 1:42 PM
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Wait a sec. Bill Clinton lies? NO WAY!

Posted by Michigan Matt | January 8, 2008 1:43 PM
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If Hillary does get the nomination I hope she gets her ASS kicked in the general election just to kill off the thought of a Hillary Presidency.

Posted by Just Me | January 8, 2008 1:48 PM
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Is it just me or is posting videos on the internet just sorta retarded? I'd much rather read a transcript, or even just the key points, such as "X said 'y', and Z replied with..."

I don't really wanna click some stupid link, wait for the fuckin' video to load, then sit through it waiting for the gist. I can *read* about a thousand times faster than that (okay, not that much. I'm exaggerating, but I'm extra-cranky today 'cause I'm doing some home-repair stuff in a dark dusty spider-infested crawlspace).

Anyway. I stand by my assertion.

Posted by Dr_Awesome | January 8, 2008 2:00 PM
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Clearly it's a result of the vast right wi-- err.. left wi-- er.. media.. conspiracy.

Posted by Chris | January 8, 2008 2:02 PM
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@5 Hillary deserves the nomination foo

Posted by WTF | January 8, 2008 2:04 PM
9

russert is getting puffy again.

Posted by superyeadon | January 8, 2008 2:06 PM
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what Russert doesn't say is how or if Obama answered those "tough" questions of his (or how much he despises the Clintons, which is obvious).

Posted by josh | January 8, 2008 2:08 PM
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f.w.i.w., I think that this is the exchange that Russert references.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21738432/page/2/

Posted by josh | January 8, 2008 2:14 PM
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Clinton, Obama, McCain, Romney, et al;
they're all the same.
Different words come out of their mouths but the money that makes those words comes from the same source - Big Pharma, Big Finance, Big Media,
Big Defense.

Election of any of them will do nothing to change the agenda,
only different garni on the plate of crusts we get.

Enjoy your anticipatory frenzy - I'll be back to say
"I told you so".

Posted by sceptic | January 8, 2008 2:17 PM
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@6: research also suggests that people who read transcripts of TV shows comprehend and retain quite a bit more than people who watch those same shows. Video is sexy and bypasses the brain.

Posted by Fnarf | January 8, 2008 2:26 PM
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Another day another dollar. Here we are again smelling more of Hillary's fear and desperation.

It's truly comical watching her go down in flames...

Entertainment at it's best.

Thanks for the laughs Billary.

Reality Check

Posted by Reality Check | January 8, 2008 2:31 PM
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sceptic is left cold by these candidates. They have yet to tap into the extremely important anti-voting constituency--they ignore it at their peril

Posted by some kid | January 8, 2008 2:38 PM
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With Obama or Edwards we will finally have a president that we can reach as a populace together and help them make decisions and policies that we need. The republicans and dems could, with the ideas of the new generations of voters at heart and movers and shakers rich or poor, can unite and have a bit of oversight on the doings of our leaders. Now we have real reprisentation once again in our democratic hopefuls who will not back down and be puppydogs for the special interests( mostly who support the religious war machine. The industrial military complex is the icing of this cake.)
That is something this country lost when some of our elders, who thought they had the nations best interest at heart, invited the GOPistapo
in to lead our affairs.
That lead to our nation being divided and no real reprisentation because of all the special interests divided on so many issues. And the wall that the Gop and Reagan / bushes put up. It was like the whitehouse became a military base and no one was aloud a voice if they were left thinking. Or centrist.
I believe that is not what the White House was meant for. We have the Pentagon for that. And somehow the two got mixed up with who was really in charge of our country.
I can see why everyone is going Democrat this time and especially Obama.
Because we were all sick and tired of Rumsfeld like characters wispering sweet nothings of war into our presidents ears.
If there is a seperation of Church and State, there ought to be also a seperation of Soldier and State. Not saying that religous people be ignored, or the military(I am ex military by the way), I am saying they should butt out of the business of guiding our presidents policies and leadership in the whitehouse. If the President says all gays should be married and grants Civil Rights to all People then he should do so. If he knows an act of War is wrong he should do so. Because he listened to the peoples voice and opinions and thought them out. And instead of just speeches of what they will do, ask the people what they want.
'For the people, by the people.'
That was not a policy either, it was an Ideal. And like those Presidents and leaders during the 1700s, I think Obama and Edwards deliver.
Policies don't make amends. Ideas do. and thats what this country needs. No more partisanship.
After reading more on Obama and Edwards, I no longer only trust them on face value but also I also trust the ambition and belief of the voters voting for him. And that is a lot of people from all walks of life. And it is happening now. So face that reality and for once start believing that the system you want you will get. More so with Obama or Edwards than the Clintons.
And when it comes to fooreign Policy I don't think the other countries are going to buy the Clintons better than Bush theme song. If so. It wasn't only a Ms. clinton vote for the freaking war. it was also her husband way back when who bombed Iraq continuosly, playing the Gulf War game again over and over. Remember that. Obama never did that, nor did Edwards.
This country wants that Gulf War Bush/Clinton/Bush mania to end. Not only in this country, but for the world as well.
Change is good especially when we can all watch instead the stockmarket going upward because of all the goodthings happening in the world, and not because of the bad things.
When I watch CNBC analysts and the Market people get doey eyed and upset because we will not trade with corrupt nations or because some war(Iraq) or strife(Darfur) is not going on somewhere, I feel so ashamed for our country. The Market does not own the couyntry, and Americans, especially the young, are getting tired of investing in paranoid old crony strategies from tired old crony policies.
I respect Mr. Clinton and Ms.Clinton but I think they need to hang up their hat, and just support Obama and Edwards, or they will come off as the biggest asshole dushes in the Democratic party. they are not looking Democratic. they are looking Aristocratic. If they continue at this rate they might as well join the right wing cause. Who the hell do they think they stand for if they don't get the nod. We still like you Clintons, just back off and go fix the Senate or something.

Posted by Upping the ante | January 8, 2008 2:42 PM
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"We still like you Clintons, just back off and go fix the Senate or something."

yes it is falling apart

Posted by some kid | January 8, 2008 2:56 PM
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if he did indeed ask those questions, why didn't they show a clip or something? They could at least prove it, then I wouldn't be so inclined to think they were telling lies.

Posted by ams | January 8, 2008 8:36 PM
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Any of you want to revise your opinions of the efficacy of Bill's tactics, now that it's been shown tonight to have been successful?

Never fuck with the Corleone family, and never fuck with the Clintons!

Posted by Big Sven | January 8, 2008 11:27 PM
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#19
"just when I thought I was out...... they pull me back in"
Well remember we still have California and New york, and the rest of the country.................
In these times I think no matter what the Dems hate about eachother(it is really not hate ,only animosity....)
the dems will get the power once again.
Nothing wrong with any of that.
No ones knocked on my door yet, and even though I am swinging Obama, doesn't mean i am beholding to that.
Man i sound like Gangs of New York the way I've been going on. srry bout that?

Posted by Upping the ante | January 9, 2008 12:30 AM

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