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I think the email said he said "very beautiful" ... at least the copy I got.

Posted by Will in Seattle | December 18, 2007 4:50 PM
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The nerve of a guy with pockmarks and widely-spaced teeth, approaching women like that. Complimenting them, even. He's clearly dangerous. Women need to be protected from being spoken to in public by men who aren't attractive.

Posted by pox | December 18, 2007 5:28 PM
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wasn't there a writer that survived the holocaust, and was so shy that he forced himself to sit on a bench and talk to women til he got a date?

Posted by holz | December 18, 2007 6:06 PM
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Hey dickwad at #2, did you even read this post? This dude wasn't merely "complimenting" pretty ladies. He was following them and propositioning them for sex. So yeah, clearly dangerous.

Posted by Bettina | December 18, 2007 6:17 PM
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says the incidents are troubling

What's troubling is that a guy is finally just being honest and up front and they are treating him like a criminal.

Posted by Touring | December 18, 2007 6:17 PM
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says the incidents are troubling

What's troubling is that a guy is finally just being honest and up front and they are treating him like a criminal.

Posted by Touring | December 18, 2007 6:17 PM
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Hi, Bettina. Propositioning a woman for sex makes a man dangerous? If he really did follow someone, the post isn't clear whether it was before or after he was turned down. Following her when she's made it clear she's not interested could be construed as stalking or harassment, which would be crimes. The post is clear that no crime was committed. I wonder if you read that part.

We both know if it were Johnny Depp propositioning women on campus there'd be no complaints, and there would be women climbing over each other to be next.

Love and kisses,

Dickwad

Posted by pox | December 18, 2007 6:28 PM
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Where's that Onion article when you need it...

Posted by Greg | December 18, 2007 7:00 PM
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Oh and Dickwad, yes, a strange man propositioning a woman for sex makes him dangerous.

First off, you and I both know that it doesn't work that way; this guy apparently doesn't, which is the mark of a sociopath.

Then there's the chance that he won't take no for an answer and assault the woman, which happens all too regularly. The fact that some small percentage of men do this makes all strange men potentially dangerous.

Third, he was hanging around campus asking several women, and he followed one for a while. As you said, this is not a crime, but these behaviors are often the precursors of a sexual assault, so campus police are right to be on guard.

The problem with your response is that you, like most men, are not a rapist, so you don't see the danger for what it is. Be assured that it is real.

Posted by Greg | December 18, 2007 7:10 PM
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Propositioning a woman for sex makes a man dangerous?


In this context (strange dude lurking in a campus parking lot for several hours and approaching women he doesn't know) yes. Absolutely.


This may come as a shock to you, but women are often the targets of sexual assualt and harassment and therefore tend to be quite vigilant in their daily lives. And given the nature of this situation (strange dude lurking in a campus parking lot for several hours and approaching women he doesn't know) I think the reactions of the women is totally understandable.


The post is clear that no crime was committed. I wonder if you read that part.

I never suggested that a crime was committed. I just think that it's callous and ignorant to characterize this as a bunch of uppity co-eds scoffing at some poor ugly dude when it's clear that his manner was suspicious and threatening enough for campus police to be contacted on three separate occasions.

Caviar wishes and champagne dreams,
Bettina

Posted by Bettina | December 18, 2007 7:16 PM
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Considering that Ted Bundy assaulted and killed UW students, pox really is a dickwad.

Posted by keshmeshi | December 18, 2007 7:17 PM
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And you know what, no, ugly men don't have any business propositioning attractive women. Not anymore than I have any business following men around, bugging them, and propositioning them. Women are very well aware of our place -- we're not to assume that we are desirable to men who are more attractive than we are. It's high time that men learn their place.

Posted by keshmeshi | December 18, 2007 7:19 PM
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I think the key here (for those few individuals who think this man's behavior gives no cause for alarm) is that three separate women in three separate incidents were so disturbed by his demeanor and his speech (we can only imagine) that they decided it was necessary to alert the police. I mean, women get harrassed in public by creepy, horny men all the time. We don't all call the cops. But this guy obviously made an impression. Think about it.

Posted by Jamey | December 18, 2007 8:03 PM
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Jamey has a good point, and it has the added strength of deriving from information actually found in the OP.

DW

Posted by pox | December 18, 2007 8:12 PM
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Seattle has the most fucked up women in the world when it comes to men.

Period. They deserve their lonely nights.

I am an older gay gay, and tall and good looking. I was born a fag. But raised with manners of the old school. Charm galore.

I will compliment women when I am out and about and they look at me like I groped them or exposed myself. It is just weird, they mostly look shocked in this how dare you manner and huff off in silence. And the plain ones huff more than usual.

God, am I glad to be gay in this city. I really pity straight men with any sex drive.

Posted by Lordsman | December 18, 2007 8:25 PM
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Ted Bundy was flat out cute. Movie star looks.

Does that mean so so looking men are safer?

Spaces between teeth is always scary, esp. to the upper white middle class girls. Just so creepy, must be a danger. And if he drives an old car, God, what horror lurks ....

Posted by zak | December 18, 2007 8:36 PM
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@15,

It never occurred to you that that's simply Seattle culture? I've gotten the fuck you look for simply saying hello to strangers. The other day at the vet's office I patted a cute dog on the head and the owner looked at me as if I'd pulled down my pants and took a dump on the floor.

Seattlites don't like attention from strangers, period.

It's also entirely possible that the plain girls think you're being sarcastic.

Posted by keshmeshi | December 18, 2007 10:28 PM
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Wow, after reading some of these comments I didn't realize how messed up and uptight things are around Seattle. I am sure a lot of us wish we had the courage to just go up and say our feelings to someone we are interested in. I am thinking the ugly description has a big influence on what this women think. It's really common courtesy to be up front about expectations and as long as he does not pursue them after they decline. How I wish I had his guts at times but I don't know I am gay so things work different with us I guess.

Posted by Touring | December 19, 2007 12:45 AM
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@18: Are you familiar with the play Snakebit?

Posted by Greg | December 19, 2007 7:39 AM
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All I can say is that I'm glad I'm (1) of at least slightly above-average looks and (2) married.

(1) means I somehow get the privilege of speaking to the women around here without them deciding I'm a criminal.

(2) means I don't have to deal with dating them anymore anyway.

Posted by that is all. | December 19, 2007 9:35 AM
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so much for the direct approach!

#20 you nailed it, if this guy was hot, they wouldnt be calling the cops and the cops wouldnt be looking for him so he is basically in trouble for HITTING ON WOMEN WHILE UNATTRACTIVE. fuck that.

Posted by FredE | December 19, 2007 9:59 AM
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#12 your on crack if you followed men around and asked them for sex you'd get more than 50 percent yes no matter what, and no one would call the cops on you ever. thats the gender gap in our society, if your a guy then your arrested for wanting sex or asking for it unless you do it THE RIGHT WAY and with THE RIGHT CLOTHES and THE RIGHT BODY AND FACE.

Posted by FredE | December 19, 2007 10:03 AM
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Wow...the whiners are a little slow today. It took 15 posts to get to the, "Seattle people aren't nice" bullshit. Must be busy with holiday shopping.

Posted by Shoegazer | December 19, 2007 10:19 AM
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@20, 21, 22: You're fucking kidding me right?!?!?
It has little to nothing to do with how attractive a guy is. It is about the vibe you get from someone who obviously has something sick in mind for you.

Very attractive men are less likely to approach random women in this way because they have less trouble getting whatever they want in a normal social context. But a woman can be approached by a perfectly acceptable looking guy who nonetheless just creeps her the fuck out. It's all about what your intuition is telling you and it's obvoius that these women's was telling them they were in danger. Otherwise why call the police instead of just saying "eat shit, dogboy" and heading on to class.

Posted by chi type | December 19, 2007 11:14 AM
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And though there may be disagreement over how serious it is, walking up to a strange woman and asking her to fuck you is NOT acceptable social behavior.
Just being honest, my ass.

Posted by chi type | December 19, 2007 11:16 AM
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Fratboy!

Posted by maddogm13 | December 19, 2007 11:42 AM
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walking up to a strange woman and asking her to fuck you is NOT acceptable social behavior.
Well sure, the guy doesn't have mad skillz with chicks, but in principle this is acceptable social behavior all over the world. You've got to chat them up, get them interested, and THEN ask them to fuck you.

Posted by Looking for Mr. Goodbar | December 19, 2007 1:53 PM

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