Comments on The Future of Affordable Housing

amen. allow some form of multi-unit construction in more neighborhoods. can't accomodate 155,000 (and that's just the low-to-moderate end of the scale) with most of the city as single-family-zoning.

It should be noted that Carla Okigwe fought *against* increasing the percentage for affordable housing for the downtown height and density upzoning. Does she approve item #1 on your list?

So, basically, a watered down version of my 100-story inexpensive residential apartment buildings with adjacent park-like open space ...

Look, it's either that or rezone from the 90 percent single-family residential zoning in place here that is pushing all the townhouses popping up like corn.

I don't get the NIMBY opposition to increased density on arterials. Having lived in a house on an arterial, the noise from traffic is hell. If I had owned that house, I would have jumped at the chance to increase its value, opening up a way to sell it and move to a quieter street.

allow some form of multi-unit construction in more neighborhoods.

And be prepared for all-out cataclysmic NIMBY warfare from (probably a small subset of) residents in those neighborhoods. Everyone's for a denser Seattle until it comes to their street.

Right. So split them and buy off some of them with the lure of higher property values.

Also: ease up and let owners build basement and garage apartments in the single family home zones. Keep an overall limit on the no. of people on the property.

This is eco-logical and units can come on line very quickly.

All housing is affordable to someone. The fallacy is that there should be housing in all areas affordable to all people. The market distributes owners across the economic neighborhoods that they can support and maintain. This benefits owners (in that the services they require tend to be in the neighborhoods they can afford) and neighborhoods. Anything else just doesn’t make moral or economic sense…

Most of this makes sense to me, but I would still prefer to see the requirement for ground-level retail retained.

Once you start talking about adding some 50,000 to 80,000 housing units to a relatively small geographic area, you also need to have businesses to cater to all those new residents: hair salons, banks, grocery stores, etc., etc. Otherwise, you're just creating the same conditions that density is supposed to solve, namely packing more people into a smaller area, so they don't have to travel to get to work, and essential services.

Don't kid yourself that the incentives proposed by Nickels will bring any kind of social justice or have any impact on the rising cost of property values in the city.

"Moderate" housing, when lumped together with the same funds meant for low-income housing, will further pervert the meaning of "affordable" by tilting scarce resources toward meeting the needs of people between 80 and 120 percent median income in a county with over 68,000 millionaires.

As for rezoning the city: Madison Park isn't going to be rezoned. Magnolia isn't going to be rezoned. Laurelhurst isn't going to be rezoned. It's the Central District, South Seattle, and the southern part of West Seattle that will be seriously rezoned.

Whether created by for profit or non-profit developers, the "moderate" and "affordable" rentals and condos--condos!-- created in the South end will accelerate the displacement of low-income people, disproportionately impacting immigrants and people of color. It's publicly subsidized gentrification repackaged in a rhetoric of sustainability and affordability, with light rail no less.

I actually do agree that the city should be rezoned to be less suburban. But unless we focus our efforts on developing and preserving affordable rental housing below 50 percent median, where the need is greatest and the market fails the most, this vision of increasing density will be an elitist one.

A couple of thoughts:

1. Functionally speaking, how is a massive rezone in the CD different from gentrification?

2. Street-level retail attached to housing is a terrible idea in seismic hazard zones like downtown Seattle. Basically, you make the first floor weak and flexible by removing lots of columns and walls, then you put a bunch of weight on the higher floors and make them stiffer. It's a good recipe for pancaking the first floor.

Please, Will in Seattle, eat shit and die.

@10:

there's this thing called CONCRETE. it allows 5/1 mixed use buildings: 5 stories of wood framed housing over a post-tensioned concrete structure with ground floor retail & parking below.

& it won't be permitted unless it meets our seismic zone requirements.

will, dude, they already did that.

robert taylor homes?

cabrini green?

it doesn't work.

affordable housing is on the way. will you keep your job though?

Seattle has plenty of affordable housing. In Kelso.