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1

This is just sad. Sad sad sad. Lost idealism at its most direct and hurtful.

Posted by Cale | December 5, 2007 11:26 AM
2

This seems like on of those hidden variable things. i.e. there is a common cause to both late fucking and poor fucking. This cause may be silly religion, as it does, in fact, ruin everything.

Posted by giffy | December 5, 2007 11:31 AM
3

Perhaps the true legacy of "saving it" is not eternal rewards in heaven, but enslavement to the "iron death grip" and your own private hell.

Posted by Nick | December 5, 2007 11:31 AM
4

I agree with @2 (and @3). This is a correlation/causation issue, I would bet. People who can't get laid until they're 20 may have the "death grip" problem. People who wait for religious reasons may have the "fucked up about sex" problem. The waiting doesn't cause the sexual dysfunction, other things do...

Posted by Julie | December 5, 2007 11:36 AM
5

What about those poor bastards who weren't trying to wait, but simply couldn't get laid until their 20s?

Posted by Greg | December 5, 2007 11:36 AM
6

saving? ha. dear women of the world, please fuck more lonely young guys.

Posted by FredE | December 5, 2007 11:36 AM
7

What @5 said. The guys I knew who lost their virginity in their 20s didn't really choose to wait that long.

Posted by tsm | December 5, 2007 11:38 AM
8

Yay! Glad I was a high school slut! Finally the evidence I was looking for

Posted by TripleX | December 5, 2007 11:38 AM
9

Well, sheesh, what about the poor nerds who just couldn't get any before then? I got to my now-husband as soon as I could, and he was 22 (which falls somewhere in that "around 21 to 23 years of age" range) and now he's bummed. He wasn't saving it for marriage, he was just shy. I can report that he's doing just fine now, thanks.

Posted by Stacy | December 5, 2007 11:39 AM
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@5 - Those poor bastars are bound to have problems anyway.

Posted by Hernandez | December 5, 2007 11:42 AM
11

Ridiculous, flawed study. So what, my future sex life and well-being is in jeopardy if I don't lose it between the ages of 16 and 20? Kind of a narrow window, no?

Dumb.

Posted by Matthew | December 5, 2007 11:42 AM
12

maybe we should be teaching high schoolers how to get laid. that way we could get the smart ones who actually pay attention to reproduce and avoid this whole idiocracy scenario. this study makes a good argument.

just saying.

remember kids- don't hesitate, procreate!

Posted by Cale | December 5, 2007 11:46 AM
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Agree with other posters on the correlation/causation issue. Another thought - maybe some late-bloomers are blooming late b/c they are just a little less /'driven' than the rest of us? That could easily lead to some of these other problems...

Posted by Ken Ketchum | December 5, 2007 11:52 AM
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@12 has a good point... I mean, the point of school dances was originally to provide practice in social skills and graces. It wouldn't be a bad idea to have something along the lines of a communication class that taught more social, interpersonal sort of things.

Posted by wench | December 5, 2007 12:05 PM
15

Well ....

fuck.

Posted by Too Late Bloomer | December 5, 2007 12:12 PM
16

Well, shit then apparently I'm screwed as a virgin 21/f who is definitely not trying to "save it"

Posted by Still Virginal & not pleased about it | December 5, 2007 12:27 PM
17

how does masterbating fit in? if you jack off every day until you're 25, will you still have problems — other than being a total loser?

Posted by teddy b | December 5, 2007 12:32 PM
18

I lost mine at 22, for lack of trying, because I have a low libido. I also have some trouble reaching orgasm. Because I have a low libido. Not because I waited.

Posted by Chris in Tampa | December 5, 2007 12:42 PM
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I'm a 23/F who's not saving for marriage, just saving it for someone who's not a jackass.

But like teddy b said, what about masturbation? I've had plenty of orgasms via pink sparkley vibe...what does a penis have to do with it?

Posted by poptart | December 5, 2007 12:44 PM
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Granted I grew up religious, but I still didn't WANT to be having sex in high school. The guys were icky, sickly, and overly sentimental. Either that or they were robots.

Plus, @14... that "social skills" class sounds like HELL. PURE UNADULTERATED HELL. My god.

Posted by Katelyn | December 5, 2007 12:48 PM
21

Hey, it wasn't for lack of trying!

Posted by monkey | December 5, 2007 12:55 PM
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@16: Maybe this just applies to the men. God I hope so! I could've knocked this outta the way when I was in high school if I'd known it could cause sexual problems later!
I'm turning 21 tomorrow, and I'm only a virgin because I wanna wait for the right guy. I'm sure as hell not saving it for marriage! I just want to wait until I'm in love.

Posted by Anna | December 5, 2007 1:14 PM
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Now you tell me! Ugh, I would have gone to bed with my nut case hook up in college if I'd known. Damn it DAN! At least I can blame an overdeveloped Catholic upbringing for my delayed orgasms.

Posted by BassSinger | December 5, 2007 1:18 PM
24

I never heard of "Death Grip Syndrome" until now. I'm afraid that I have the symptoms. Any advice on how to cure it? Should I stop selfing all together or gradually do it more gently?

Posted by anonymi | December 5, 2007 1:45 PM
25

I put a lot of credence on this, and for very good reasons:

1) Everyone knows the biggest sex organ, the one that rules everything, is the brain.

2) The brain continues to develop throughout adoloscence, up to the age of twenty and a bit beyond.

3) Various human physical/social/mental/emotional capacities have a given "window" of time to be developed. For instance, language -- if a person does not learn spoken language by the age of eleven or so, they will NEVER learn to speak, no matter what their ultimate IQ or their other abilities. Is it so hard to accept that the ability to come to orgasm with another human being, an ability which is a profoundly brain-based ability, would likewise have a "window" in which it will develop healthily?

So it follows logically that if social/sexual development is delayed past that window, that sexual performance, ability, and enjoyment would be compromised.

Now, because there are "late bloomers" as much as there are "early developers", late-onset sexual activity is not necessarily correlated with later sexual dysfunction as long as it is the consequence of a generally much delayed physical and social development.

Finally, I speak from experience. I very unwillingly did not lose my virginity until 23, (that is, I wanted to lose it earlier, but a fucked-up religious upbringing and chronic depression stood in my way) and since that time I have suffered from delayed/inability to orgasm, as noted in the study.

As far as I am concerned, there's truth in the study, truth which deserves to be further studied.

Posted by Hairhead | December 5, 2007 1:57 PM
26

Woooo! I lost my virginity at 12. This makes me feel good about myself and my future.

Posted by Gitai | December 5, 2007 1:57 PM
27

Not giving it away to the first asshole who wanted to fuck me when I was a wee teenager was the best and easiest decision I ever made. I had fucked around plenty before I met the man who finally fucked me at the ripe old age of 22. I waited for love and I don't regret that decision for a second. It didn't work out, we're not together anymore, but I have since had happy, healthy sexual relationship with others. My ex and I did things in bed that would make even Dan's ears twitch. My new guy is much more straight-laced, but an overall better lover. Its not when you do it, it's how and with whom you do it. Just because I wasn't a slut doesn't mean there is anything wrong with me.

Posted by Just because I wasn't a slut... | December 5, 2007 2:15 PM
28

So far so good.

In a way, I wish I would have waited till I was 27.

Posted by Lloyd Clydesdale | December 5, 2007 2:43 PM
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Um, wouldn't the type of person who is slow to start having sex... naturally correlate with the type to be sexually slow or dysfunctional, esepcially being slow to get aroused? I mean, it would just make perfect sense.

Sometimes I wondern if the mainstream media thinks at all about these findings before jumping to their conclusi- oh wait, that would entail being able to think critically. nm

Posted by Gomez | December 5, 2007 3:37 PM
30

Just pouring salt into an open wound. Fantastic.

Posted by 21 virgin | December 5, 2007 6:57 PM

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