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Thursday, December 6, 2007

Re: The Romney Speech

posted by on December 6 at 12:42 PM

I found this part of Romney’s LDS testimonial revealing:

I believe that every faith I have encountered draws its adherents closer to God. And in every faith I have come to know, there are features I wish were in my own: I love the profound ceremony of the Catholic Mass, the approachability of God in the prayers of the Evangelicals, the tenderness of spirit among the Pentecostals, the confident independence of the Lutherans, the ancient traditions of the Jews, unchanged through the ages, and the commitment to frequent prayer of the Muslims.

Talk about damning with faint praise. I’m not sure what you heathens are doing, says Romney, but gee whiz, you sure do it a lot!

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Not sure I get what you mean. What he says about Muslims is about as vague as what he says about the Lutherans.

Posted by Suz | December 6, 2007 12:44 PM

It doesn't look like he singled out Muslims any differently. Are you reading something into it that's not there, perhaps?

Posted by Justy | December 6, 2007 12:51 PM

Do they have frequent praying cards?

Posted by Mr. Poe | December 6, 2007 12:53 PM

"The ancient, wacky traditions of the Jews!" I agree, he's definitely damning them ALL with faint praise.

Posted by Ari Spool | December 6, 2007 12:55 PM

Huh, no mention of the Buddhists. Or the Hindus for that matter. I guess they don't fit quite as neatly into his little theory.

Posted by John_Bigboote | December 6, 2007 12:59 PM

... and, of course, the athiests, for, you know, doing nothing.

Posted by infrequent | December 6, 2007 1:08 PM

I love how the excessive lavishness of the Catholic church and its ceremonies was one of the things that pissed Protestants off for hundreds of years, yet nowadays it seems like the default compliment.

Posted by Megan | December 6, 2007 1:08 PM

The frequent praying thing is a common compliment from Christians towards Muslims. It's like, "Well... at least they are dedicated." Most US Christians only pray at dinner time, on Sundays, or when they're trying not to look at porn.

Posted by Katelyn | December 6, 2007 1:14 PM

that speech was so gross.

Posted by josh | December 6, 2007 1:28 PM

...and the atheists, for your clear and rational thought processes and refusal to see the world in absolutes.

Posted by UNPAID BLOGGER | December 6, 2007 1:37 PM

What an ass he is. And what asses we the people are for allowing Presidential campaigns to reach this low point.

Posted by laterite | December 6, 2007 1:44 PM

If Mitt really thought every religion had something to offer he'd become a Unitarian.

Posted by elenchos | December 6, 2007 1:46 PM

The whole speech was insulting to atheists. God granted us liberty? WTF, every primarily religious political theorist tries to limit freedom.

Posted by vooodooo84 | December 6, 2007 1:46 PM

well, i don't think every time a religious person opens their mouth they are insulting atheists or agnostics. if you have a view that says any one thing is true, right, or good, then it is also saying something is false, wrong, or bad, respectively.

he didn't (and probably shouldn't) have to make such a big deal about his faith, and the role he believes god plays. but i don't think he has to provide disclaimers each time either. he doesn't have to say each faith is valid, or no faith.

because, basically, he's in a lose lose lose situation here on slog, were he even to keep his mouth closed!

and it is mostly because he is GOP, and for his political views, NOT his religious views.

right? i mean, which complaint here is because he's mormon? none? whereas ALL the religious accusations can be leveled against EVERY other candidate. fortunately for them, however, they do not need to make as big of issue out of it because they are not of a faith that has yet to be elected to the white house.

Posted by infrequent | December 6, 2007 2:40 PM

Mitt Romney getting a fair shake on SLOG - no going to happen.

Mitt Romney a leading contender for President - yes.

The fact that he headed into this topic at all is amazing and shows character and a pit bull player for the race.

You all sound so silly, as if you think he is trying to convince you.

I am an agnostic and find nothing in the Mormon church much worse that the hundreds of other story lines. But, I have know many Mormon families and they seem to be the finest people on the block. It may not be my path for life or many of the SLOG posters, but as churches go, seems to work very well.

They don't do Kool Aid, talk good health practices, and are devoted.

Mormon trashing is so dated, about 1850 I think, when they were driven from the mid west for being anti - slave. The slave trade feared their power in three states as the pre civil war stuff was foaming.

I am gay and resent their homophobia, but would note their men sleep with men quite willingly. Go figure.

Posted by Larkin | December 6, 2007 3:24 PM

...and the wearing of the secret underwear by the Mormons and Sikhs....

Posted by Tlazolteotl | December 6, 2007 3:33 PM

I don't think Sikh underwear is secret. They just don't talk about it.

Posted by Will in Seattle | December 6, 2007 5:18 PM

The underwear is one piece, shoulder to knee, rayon and very silky, and great for winter.

The funny, one of my scores had washed his garments with red and so he was wearing a pink silky secret one piecer. He was one very sexy fellow with a big hard on sticking out.

Posted by Larkin | December 6, 2007 6:47 PM

There has not yet been a Lutheran president, either. Garrison Keillor for president!!!

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